View Full Version : Prince: Genius? (New album possibly out in March)
gjkendall
05-09-2002, 16:26
I have been a Prince fan for a long time now! He seems to be having something of a new lease of life recently, a new album was recently released (the rainbow children), and a new live album is about to be released. His fan-club(www.npgmusicclub.com) has several exclusive unreleased tracks/albums that you can buy, and as part of membership you can get 4 new/exclusive unrealeasd cd's mailed to your door. I think this is superb, ok it costs $100 to join, but as a collector of his music i think that is small change!
He has had an Album out pretty much every year since his debut album FOR YOU! That is one hell of a discography! His standards rarely drop, and his music holds up really well to repeated listening.
I now he went a "bit odd" what with the name change and the whole Warner Brothers thing, but what do you guys think of Prince, who in my opinion is one of the greatest musicians ever!
Just read back through this post, and it does half sound as if I work for NPGMC, I can assure you I don't, I am just making people/fans aware that unreleased material is availble from there.
Not a massive fan of his music (I think he lost it a bit when he got rid of The Revolution) but one of the sexiest performers I've ever seen.
He's the most potent musical force since the passing of Wolfie in 1791.
I've heard around 200 unreleased tracks over the years and I can say, hand on heart, that the stuff he never put out is greater than the entire released careers of most pop stars / bands.
The most talented man on earth. And the only 'artist' whose output is so high in quality and quantity (certainly on the latter part he's undeniably the all time #1) that I just don't even understand how he can do it!
You'll also be surprised at how many other artists rate him as one of the all time greats. Randy Newman, Tom Waits and Brian Eno come to mind.
Toon Army
06-09-2002, 09:21
Utterly without comparison in the 20th/21st century.
I periodically play through all of the albums in chronological order and the diversity and range of styles and the command of them is truly phenomenal.
A true artist in every sense. As a recording artist, he is without comparison as far as work rate is concerned. His technical ability in the studio is awesome. His vocal range is overwhelming. HIs mastery of numerous instruments is breath-taking. As a live performer, he truly has to be seen to be believed.
Have you ever tried putting a compilation album together? It is so hard to do because there are just so many outstanding tracks in his career, and that's before you get to the unreleased stuff. I tried to put together a compilation of his slow 'n' sexy stuff for obvious night-time ambience :norty: (is there anyone better at this?) and I filled two 80 minute discs and still had countless tunes that I wanted to use! Who else could you even begin to say that about? What other artist could you do this with and in reference to only 1 type of song?!?!
In short, the guy is a musical genius. :rocker:
Who is short. :D
Welcome 2 the Dawn. :thumbs:
I agree, Prince is a fantastic artist, the quality of whose work constantly amazes me. I keep getting drawn back into The Gold Experience, for example -- and the "symbol" album (does it have a "real" name?) was one of the first (and best) CD albums I bought (with the nice gold-embossed cover :)).
So how's the new album? I confess I didn't really get into Emancipation (well, the second and third discs anyway... actually I may give them another try) but I enjoyed Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.
I was going to ask which previous albums it's similar too, but now I think about it that doesn't really matter. So, opinions sought: thumbs up or thumbs down?
Mozart: genius, Bach: genius, Einstein: genius, Prince: talented, more so than most of his contemporaries. Absolutely nowhere near genius status. Are you all nuts ?
Mike.
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 10:30
Rainbow Children is a superb album, very religeous in theme, but a fantastic return to form (i felt Emancipation was a tad weak, and Rave un2 had some great tracks but a few poorer ones too). A better album to try and get is the album called Rave In2, this was originally only ever given out at one venue of a tour a few years ago. It is a remix album of Rave Un2, but contains more alternate version rather than remixes. It is available from the fan site for a reasonable price, get it anywhere else (if you can find it...it is difficult to get hold of) then you will pay a fortune for it (I have seen it go for £50+)
The best thing I have heard by Prince for a long long time, is called One Night Alone In Chicago.It is a double cd, containing a live concert he did in march this year. Amazing and brilliant are two words to describe this cd!
For a musician to be constantly releasing albums nearly 25/30 years after his first album deserves a lot of credit, ok, I know he has alienated a lot of people with his "oddness", but at the end of the day, I look forward to a new release by Prince, and that is a higher praise as I can give him!
Thanks for the info gjkendall; I'll look some of that stuff up. Which is the fan site BTW -- is that the one you linked to in the first post, or another?
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 10:58
smst: NPGMC is the official site.
Ah, okay. So which is the fan site you mentioned with the reasonable price on Rave In2...?
Mr Dubby
06-09-2002, 11:12
genius - waaaaaaay ahead of his time
and the only guy to mention Internet Porn in a lyric before it was even invented!
"where is my love life - where can it be? there must be something wrong with the machinery!"
"until I find the righteous one, Computer Blue"
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 11:41
NPGMC has the Rave In2 cd, but I think you have to join the club before you can buy it!!! i'll have a look, i think it is in the members only store!
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 11:46
Lifted from the NPGMC site...
SPECIAL EDITION REMIX CD OF THE 1999 RAVE UN2 THE JOY
FANTASTIC ALBUM. THIS CD CONTAINS XCLUSIVE REMIXES
OF "HOT WIT U", "RAVE IN2 THE JOY FANTASTIC", "BABY KNOWS"
AND MORE, PLUS THE BONUS TRACK, "BEAUTIFUL STRANGE."
THIS CD IS NOT AVAILABLE IN STORES.
$15 +P&P......sadly it is a members only release!
Damn; thanks for looking though. I think 60-odd quid is a bit much for me to afford right now (although with 4 free CDs there are certainly benefits...). I'll have to be strong and wait until it's economically feasible :D.
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 12:27
it's actually more than 4 cd's...you get
1x3cd set called One Night Alone Live
1x1cd called Xenophobia
1x1cd called December
1x2cd called Best Of (rerecorded and remastered)
plus there is a possible 7cd boxset of the celebration week held at Paisley Park this year!
:( Getting more and more tempted... I wonder how late in the year I can leave it before joining if I'm to guarantee I get the CDs (or if, joining on 31st December 2002, the discs will be shipped with the first batch of 2003). Just thinking about the batch-shipping mentioned on the site.
Can you give me a little more info about the 7-disc set? You say it's "possible" -- does that mean that one simply has the option to buy it (and if so, for how much?), or that it's possible it'll be available for free?
I sound awfully like someone who really wants to get his money's worth, I know -- and in some respects that's true. I can't easily justify spending the money at the moment (moving house next week; mortgage to pay soon) but would be very happy to get hold of some of these recordings. On a third hand, I could just satisfy myself by picking up back-catalogue albums on the cheap (my collection is woefully inadequate, comprising mainly later recordings)... decisions, decisions :p.
So do you think the free stuff is worth the price of admission alone?
Wow, didn't realise there were as many fans as this on the forums.
I have been a big fan since the Purple Rain album. Favourite albums are: Sign O' The Times, Purple Rain, The Gold Experience (a very underrated album), Lovesexy, Come (I just love the jazzy version of Come, Letitgo, Space and the lyrics to Race) and Parade. Emancipation would have been voted as one of the best albums of all time if the best tracks had been put out as a single CD.
He is without doubt a musical genius. I think that he had something going with Wendy & Lisa that he has since been unable to reproduce though.
I have bought every album commercially available, but have never joined the NPGMC. I have lost interest since he became a Jehovah's Witness (I can understand why - losing his baby - but I don't agree with their beliefs), and I didn't like that he changed lyrics and song titles (The Cross became The Christ). It seems weird hearing him sing older songs now where he has removed all swearing.
I've seen him live 6 times since 1993 (including 2 aftershows at The Emporium and The Hippodrome) and have every gig I've been to on bootleg.
He is so varied in his musical style. He can go from singing falsetto to full-on rock or funk at the drop of a hat, which is what makes me so fascinated.
I have managed to get the Xenophobia (12 disc set) that was unofficially released a little while ago. Anyone else got many boots?
My favourites are Small Club, Dream Factory and the City Lights box set.
Prince - my first properly "followed" musician. Went to see him about 5 times in the 90's - would love for him to tour again.:rocker:
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 13:35
I have and listen to a lot....
Live in New York City
Past, Present & Future 2 (includes full unreleased Undertaker album)
Dreams
Fantasia
Sign Of THe Time Rehersals (4cd)
One Night Alone in Chicago
Small Club
Parade around the world
Prince in Rock
DAMONC: don't suppose you have a minidisc recorder
;)
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 13:42
HE IS TOURING........rough dates are as shown
Oct 2 Birmingham Acadamy
Oct 4 London Apollo
Oct 5 London Apollo
Oct 7 Glasgow Clyde Auditorium
Oct 8 Manchester Apollo
Oct 9 Manchester Apollo
Oct 12 Cardiff CIA
Oct 14 Frankfurt Jahrhunderthalle
Oct 16 Rotterdam Ahoy
Oct 18 Brussels Forest Nations
Oct 19 Hamburg CCHI
Oct 21 Copenhagen Falkoner
Oct 22 Oslo Konserthuse
Oct 24 Alborg Kongresscentre
Oct 25 Stockholm Annexet
Oct 27 Berlin Tempodrome
Oct 29 Paris Zenith
These are not 100%, so don't shoot me, i'm just the messenger:rocker:
Sadly I am going to miss the london shows as my wife is expecting our first child on the 2nd October!!!!
:clap:
Originally posted by gjkendall
Small Club
Just My Imagination from the first CD in that set is one of my favourite live performances ever. Just truly phenomenal.
His version of A Case Of You from Aug 83 (Purple Rain rehearsal) was pretty stunning too.
Mr Dubby
06-09-2002, 14:24
Originally posted by gjkendall
Sadly I am going to miss the london shows as my wife is expecting our first child on the 2nd October!!!!
:clap:
You'll have more kids...go to the concert:D
or
I'll stand in for you if you like, I'm only down the road and can be in Crawley in 20mins - I'll be at the head end of course:D
Muddy Mudskipper
06-09-2002, 15:08
Not a huge fan, but this thread as rekindled my interest in delving into his back catalogue......
Fave songs are 7 and Sign 'O The Times.
Mr Dubby
06-09-2002, 15:12
'7' is one of those choons I just BURST into now and then - only hearing someone say the number triggers it - Round and Round too! (Whatever happened to that young kid on that track!?)
gjkendall
06-09-2002, 15:14
Tevin Campbell is still releasing stuff, as far as I know. He has had a couple of albums out.
Barney_Tabasco
06-09-2002, 17:48
Prince is an absolute genius of the highest order. Even the greats such as The Beatles and Stevie Wonder didn't match his run of albums in the eighties from 1999 through to Lovesexy for pure originality, variety and mindblowing musical excellence!
gjkendall - When are those dates going to be confirmed?
Muddy Mudskipper
06-09-2002, 18:21
Has he ever recorded his own version of Manic Monday?
Originally posted by gjkendall
DAMONC: don't suppose you have a minidisc recorder
;)
I do, yes :)
Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
Has he ever recorded his own version of Manic Monday?
He has never officially released his own version of it, but there are versions floating around I believe. On the Xenophobia set I have from his birthday celebrations in June, he plays it on piano while inviting a woman from the audience on stage to sing it (who did well considering how nervous she was). At the same gig he plays a full-length version of Purple Rain only on piano (with backing band). Never heard him do this before, he has always played guitar at some point.
Anyone know where the London Apollo is? Is it Hammersmith?
Jazzatola
07-09-2002, 00:31
As far as popular music is concerned, Prince is a genius. I've got nearly all of his albums, but lost faith a few years ago after Emancipation - as someone said, if it was only one Cd then it would have been another masterwork. But then if there's one thing Prince has always had a problem with it's quality control.
Anyway, recently I picked up The Crystal Ball and The Rainbow Children and I've rediscovered my old passion for his music. There's some great stuff on those two albums.
I'm so over excited I've gone and joined the club too!
Thanks!
Originally posted by Damonc
Anyone know where the London Apollo is? Is it Hammersmith?
Yes.
Manchester or Frankfurt for me, depending on how my shifts work out (so probably neither :rolleyes: )
Couldnt agree more...I've been to see him at least once every visit he's made over here since the Cherry Moon tour (86)
I gather he should be coming back over pretty soon - Lets hope its the Brixton Academy again, by far the best venue I've seen him at
Originally posted by McD
Just My Imagination from the first CD in that set is one of my favourite live performances ever. Just truly phenomenal.
That guitar solo :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy
No matter how many times I hear it, I still get shivers. People Without and Still Would Stand All Time ("who's the fool singing "will"?" - makes me laugh how long it took him to realise).
Originally posted by GlennSh
I gather he should be coming back over pretty soon - Lets hope its the Brixton Academy again, by far the best venue I've seen him at
What tour did he play Brixton?
What tour did he play Brixton?
Not sure of the name of the tour but the date was 28-8-98. He came over & only played Wembley & Brixton AFAIK
1998 - Was that really the last time he came over here ?? I think we MUST be due a visit, lets hope the rumours are true!
Originally posted by GlennSh
Not sure of the name of the tour but the date was 28-8-98. He came over & only played Wembley & Brixton AFAIK
1998 - Was that really the last time he came over here ?? I think we MUST be due a visit, lets hope the rumours are true!
That's right, I remember now. I was thinking it must have been an early tour. It was the New Power Soul tour and I saw him at Wembley and then went down to the Hippodrome where he played from about 2.30-5.00am.
Yep, I'd agree he's a genius (and a tad weird:D) Definitely the most talented solo artist for the past 20 years.
jodennis
07-09-2002, 11:33
I've got all his "shop released" albums, which numbers about thirty something, and only two (un)official bootleg albums. However, I have "found" over 250 unreleased Prince tracks over the past two years on the internet, whether they be songs written for other bands (The Time, Vanity 6, Madhouse, Mayte), extended versions of well known songs, alternate versions, or unreleased studio tracks. However, I am not sure whether or not I can justify joining the NPGMC, for around £70 a year. Is it really worth it, I have seen the track listing on some of his NPG Ahdio shows and he releases only a few new songs with each one, and besides I think he is a bit weird now.
I do, however, think that The Rainbow Children is a fantastic album, showing that he has not lost form over the past 25 years.
Does any NPGMC member want to lend me their Famname and Password to have a look at the site? Or is that a bit cheeky?
Originally posted by Damonc
That's right, I remember now. I was thinking it must have been an early tour. It was the New Power Soul tour and I saw him at Wembley and then went down to the Hippodrome where he played from about 2.30-5.00am.
He also played a secret gig at the Cafe de Paris during that tour which I managed to get tickets to. Plenty of celebs there seeing a truly great performer in action.
Also went to the first Celebration he held in Minneapolis. Great to get inside Paisley Park. I can forever say I sat at the console that he recorded Sign O The Times on :clap: :clap: :clap:
Wonderful performer and I was STUNNED that Total guitar did not have him in the Top 100 guitarists :confused: :confused: :confused:
Jazzatola
07-09-2002, 13:44
Originally posted by gjkendall
it's actually more than 4 cd's...you get
1x3cd set called One Night Alone Live
1x1cd called Xenophobia
1x1cd called December
1x2cd called Best Of (rerecorded and remastered)
plus there is a possible 7cd boxset of the celebration week held at Paisley Park this year!
Excellent!
I'm a club member but couldn't find anything about these releases on the site. Where can I find out more? Thanks! :)
I've got all his official CD's too, though I'm a bit thin on the ground when it comes to live boots etc, so if anyone would like to help me out it'd be much appreciated!
Thanks
Originally posted by swanny
He also played a secret gig at the Cafe de Paris during that tour which I managed to get tickets to. Plenty of celebs there seeing a truly great performer in action.
Also went to the first Celebration he held in Minneapolis. Great to get inside Paisley Park. I can forever say I sat at the console that he recorded Sign O The Times on
I remember reading about Beck being at the back dancing like a loon at that gig :clap:
Must have been pretty amazing being sat in that studio. I've read some great stories about how he records, and that because he feels that his vocals are so personal, he kicks everyone out of the studio and hangs a mic above the console so that he can operate it while he records.
Originally posted by GlennSh
I've got all his official CD's too, though I'm a bit thin on the ground when it comes to live boots etc, so if anyone would like to help me out it'd be much appreciated!
Thanks
Do you have broadband and newsgroup access?
Do you have broadband and newsgroup access?
Yes and Yes :)
Originally posted by GlennSh
Yes and Yes :)
Open your news server full groups list and search for "prince", you will come across a multimedia group which is full of boots. Keep checking back regularly as it is updated often.
Use Google to search for Prince bootlegs and you will find guides detailing the best.
Ta - I had seen it before,but it didnt look very active so unsub'd
I'll have another try sometime. Cheers
Quality site for tracking all kinds of Prince releases:
http://www.guide2prince.org/main2.html
Back in 1990/91 I used to be a fanatical collector of Prince boots, and probably had all that were available up until that time. Sadly this was before the era of CDRs and Minidiscs - so most of it's on tape. Well over a hundred full concerts though, all spread over two tapes each.
This probably has changed now given the internet and all that, but for a few years after, you could only get boots for five of his six Earls Court '91 shows. The other was elusive. And, as chance had it, I taped the missing one myself! Oh, the quality was well below average, but I got a kick out of having (seemingly back then anyway) the only recording out there!
In 1998 I was living in London, and was just back from Ibiza. I'm on a train home from work and see someone reading Time Out - Prince is in the Concert Section. I get off the train early, just after 6pm, in Oxford St, go into HMV, pick up the mag to see if Prince is playing London soon. And he's playing in just over an hour! Go down to one of the ticket agencies in Charring Cross Road who sell me a 10th row seat (!) in Wembley Arena for about £40, and I arrive at my perfect view about two minutes before the show began. That was the tenth and last time I saw him live. Just thought I'd share that with y'all. :)
(Swanny - you didn't go to school in Glasgow did you? The biggest Prince fan at my high school was called 'swanny' as it happens. Might just be a co-incidence)
Originally posted by McD
. :)
(Swanny - you didn't go to school in Glasgow did you? The biggest Prince fan at my high school was called 'swanny' as it happens. Might just be a co-incidence)
No sorry matey, not me. Never set foot in Scotland.
Good story about the Wembley gig. I was in the fourth row for that one. Good show.
No sorry matey, not me.
Ah well...
Never set foot in Scotland.
lucky you...
Good story about the Wembley gig. I was in the fourth row for that one. Good show.
I've been front and centre three times (all in Ecosse). Got his plectrum that he'd just used for Purple Rain at Parkhead, July 1991. As you can imagine, it's one of my most prized possessions... framed and all that. The funny thing was, I went to loads of gigs back then with no mementos, and just before Prince came on I got the support act's plectrum too (Shakespear's Sister).
About the Wembley Arena gig... do you not think he spoiled a huge exciting entrance by coming on with Chaka Khan during the support set?
Originally posted by McD
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About the Wembley Arena gig... do you not think he spoiled a huge exciting entrance by coming on with Chaka Khan during the support set? [/B]
Indeed I do. From our position we could see him in the wings most of the time. Very different from the days of SOTT and Lovesexy tours.
I still remember my first Lovesexy concert. The ticket stated 7:45 PROMPT with NO support act. The lights went down at 7:30 and the excitement that built up in that place was something I will never forget. 20 minutes the little sod kept us waiting, and then he shows up in a Thunderbird!!!!
Quite amazing :)
davey1970
10-09-2002, 23:41
personality wise, i think he's brilliant and has always been a light in the darkness of mediocre plastic manufactured pop groups. we need variety in the music scene, not just of type of music but the type of performers.
musically i thought he was fab from controversy to parade, then i really went off things.
agreed he's a genius, and like most of them hes often self indulgent (why the hell shouldn't he be) and as such can make really tedious songs on occasion.
for quite a long time i wished he had the discipline to record an album as tight as purple rain.
must confess ive totally lost track but have noticed the better reviews of the last few albums.
d
Just seen in this (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116116) thread he's playing on 3/10 & tix are (gulp) £65...
Barney_Tabasco
11-09-2002, 18:17
Any update on the rest of the tour?
Originally posted by davey1970
musically i thought he was fab from controversy to parade, then i really went off things.
You don't like Sign O' The Times? :eek:
davey1970
11-09-2002, 23:06
amazingly (as i know how popular it is), no, i didnt rate it at all, and that was after waiting for the shop to open at 9am to get it i think on the day of release lol. love u got the look and a couple of others, but found it boring.
mad i know!
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Just one thing, you all say you have seen aftershows?
How do you hear of these? And how do you get tickets? Does he always do one?
Will he do one if i see him in london this october?
Originally posted by Seth
Just one thing, you all say you have seen aftershows?
How do you hear of these? And how do you get tickets? Does he always do one?
Will he do one if i see him in london this october?
There have been different ways in the past of finding out about aftershows. Generally the web and newsgroups have been the first place to look (earlier than 1994-5 I think radio was one of the only ways to find out).
When I saw him at The Emporium in 1995, I went to the 2nd aftershow as he did 2 nights running. I found out by looking at a couple of fan sites on the web that had the info for the first night.
When I saw him at Wembley in '98, I was about 95% sure that he would do one, but nothing had been announced before the gig. I knew the setlist so when he started playing the final song (1999) my girlfriend and I stood by the exit, and as he finished an announcement was made that an aftershow would be at the Hippodrome. We then legged it down to the tube station so that I could get down there.
Muddy Mudskipper
20-09-2002, 10:25
I was watching The Fast Show last night....does anyone else remember the 'music hall' bits where that banjo player is singing Prince songs? It's the funniest thing ever. :D
He sings little bits of Gett Off, Cream and Sexy MF. They must have run into copyright issues though as they're not on the actual VHS releases.
You sexy motherf.... :lol:
When is that triple album One Night Alone out in the UK?
gjkendall
20-09-2002, 13:42
Not to sure on the release date....
Release party is next week in the US, then it is being sent to NPGMC members, so it'll probably be after all the touring finishes!
I heard october from somewhere.:D
IndyMode
20-09-2002, 14:54
Prince does have to be one of the most talented musicans alive today - it's amazing that one man can do as much as he has! I would love to see him live one day (once I get some more $$$)
nick dare
20-09-2002, 15:30
Prince amazes me. His singles output is brilliant.
However, some of his albums are a bit dodgy. No question the fella has an abundance of talent but I do get the feeling that he doesn't always quite get it right. He releases too many albums which means we do get treated the odd "filler track" which would be better on a B-side.
But any man who can write Sign O The Times and Paisley Park in the space of a year must be a genius.
Originally posted by nick dare
Prince amazes me. His singles output is brilliant.
However, some of his albums are a bit dodgy. No question the fella has an abundance of talent but I do get the feeling that he doesn't always quite get it right. He releases too many albums which means we do get treated the odd "filler track" which would be better on a B-side.
But any man who can write Sign O The Times and Paisley Park in the space of a year must be a genius.
Agreed that he is so prolific that in recent years his output has been nowhere near as good as his mid to late 80s output. Recent albums like New Power Soul are shockingly bad with maybe 1 or 2 good tracks on the whole album (IMHO of course). 1999: The New Master :eek:
I must say though that his B-sides in the 80s and early 90s were good enough for albums themselves.
Anorakus
20-09-2002, 21:36
The man is surely the Mozart of our generation :rocker:
The NPG album Exodus was pretty good, Count The Days is amazing.:D
It's criminal that he will not be recognised for his overwhelming talent until he is dead and gone. It's my opinion that his voice is the greatest ever heard. Absolutely unsurpassed.
I will be seeing both the Manchester shows next month and I can't wait. I am even dragging my girlfriend, a non-fan, and she is looking forward to the whole soundcheck and aftershow (if we get one) experience.
If anyone is interested, check out my Prince related sites:
http://www.beautifulstrange.co.uk
and
http://www.princelyrics.co.uk
How do i get an aftershow ticket?
Mr Dubby
27-09-2002, 16:09
Originally posted by Damonc
I must say though that his B-sides in the 80s and early 90s were good enough for albums themselves.
The flip side to Gett Off was SUUUUUUPERRRRB - still funking in my head to this day!
"DO SOMETHING!"
:rocker:
Originally posted by Mr Dubby
The flip side to Gett Off was SUUUUUUPERRRRB - still funking in my head to this day!
"DO SOMETHING!"
:rocker: What was the name of that track? Or am I being daft and it was actually called "Do Something" (or "Suuuuuuperrrrb" :p)?
...
Hold on, just did a search. Horny Pony?
Edwardo Catflappo
29-09-2002, 18:16
Any of you fans need Prince tickets for London Apollo Saturday 5th Oct?
I am stuck with two in block 13 of the stalls so great seats but now can't go.
Robbearpark@hotmail.com and only asking face value of £110 for both.
Has anyone been to see him yet this week ? I really wanted to go but couldnt justify the ticket price to wifey :(
Fat Man Hackett
05-10-2002, 16:33
I went last night, and all I can say is WOW!! I'm not an avid Prince fan, but I felt that if he came to town I'd have to see him, and he blew me away. On stage at a tad after 8pm, off stage at about 10:40pm... I admit that I only knew 3 songs that he played in the whole 2.5 hours, but it was truely amazing. He is the funkiest thing I have ever seen (and the NPG drummer is also the greatest drummer in the world!).
Cool (except I'm now gutted I missed it!) So he was on with a full band and not "alone" as the tour name implied ??
CHeers
Tuesday night, Baby - in Manchester with my £60.00 ticket - can't wait. This will be, like the 6th time I've seen him.
Originally posted by Fat Man Hackett
I went last night, and all I can say is WOW!! I'm not an avid Prince fan, but I felt that if he came to town I'd have to see him, and he blew me away. On stage at a tad after 8pm, off stage at about 10:40pm... I admit that I only knew 3 songs that he played in the whole 2.5 hours, but it was truely amazing. He is the funkiest thing I have ever seen (and the NPG drummer is also the greatest drummer in the world!). This sounds like the set he played when I went to see him in Houston in April this year. He did a one off gig in Houston and gave 2 weeks notice from the announcement to the concert itself. As you can imagine tickets sold out within hours (the venue had less than 5,000 seats) and were selling on ebay for $600 each. It just so happened that the mate I was staying with has some very, very good connections. A whole group of us went and we got excellent seats in the front row of the balcony with a perfect view.
The show was absolutely AMAZING. I'm not the biggest Prince fan in the world but the set just blew me away. Candy Dulfer was on Sax and the whole NPG band was fantastic (the drummer was class!). I've not been to many concerts but what really did it for me was the skill that Prince and the NPG showed playing their instruments and the energy they put into the show.
I think most of the stuff they played was off the new album with only 2 or 3 older tracks that I knew. He did great versions of Nothing Compares 2 U and Raspberry Beret that brought the house down.
We did have this crazy american woman behind us screaming for The Man to play "Puuuuuuuuuuuuurple Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaain" throughout the show but it was actually quite funny thinking back. I think she messed her knickers up when he finally played it at the end of the encore.
Oh, and that reminds me. He played for a solid 3 hours, an hour of that being the encore!
Barney_Tabasco
08-10-2002, 16:32
Now i'm REALLY looking forward to 8pm tonight - BRING IT ON!! :clap: :rocker:
Shouldn't the thread read?
Prince:Pervert
He removed two of his ribs so that he could give himself fellatio.
lovegroova
08-10-2002, 17:08
Originally posted by Philc
Shouldn't the thread read?
Prince:Pervert
He removed two of his ribs so that he could give himself fellatio.
Suddenly we're in the Urban Myths thread :rolleyes:
some people will believe anything they read in the paper
Originally posted by Philc
Shouldn't the thread read?
Prince:Pervert
He removed two of his ribs so that he could give himself fellatio.
And even if he had, who cares. Try seeing the guy live and then come back here with an opinion.
Until then :nono:
Originally posted by Philc
Shouldn't the thread read?
Prince:Pervert
He removed two of his ribs so that he could give himself fellatio.
I've been a fan for many years and thst's the first time I've heard that. :lol:
Barney_Tabasco
09-10-2002, 00:53
OK, just got back from Manchester Apollo and........STUNNING!
This was the real deal folks. To all you Prince fans check this:
Pop Life
Rasberry Beret
Take Me With You
Beautiful Ones
Strange Relationship
Sign O The Times
Alphabet Street
The Ladder
Nothing Compares 2 U
Money Don't Matter 2 Night
Strollin'
When You Were Mine
All the Critics Love U in New York
Ballad of Dorothy Parker
and that's just the half of it!
Now i remember why i was such a Prince obsessive back in the day - genius!
:notworthy :rocker:
I was there with Barney and can confirm, that despite feeling absolutely sh!te - it was the best and most personal Prince gig that I have ever been to!!
New bands, new idols, manufactured music where the members of a group only met through a competition - PRINCE is something that you will never be - a musical maestro, the kind of guy that you feel proud that he ever picked up an instrument.....and the funkiest thing on two legs - EVER.!!:rocker:
Originally posted by swanny
And even if he had, who cares. Try seeing the guy live and then come back here with an opinion.
Until then :nono:
And until you know whether I've seen him live
Schtum!
gary191265
10-10-2002, 14:27
Originally posted by Philc
Shouldn't the thread read?
Prince:Pervert
He removed two of his ribs so that he could give himself fellatio.
Yeah, and Mark Almond had to have two pints of sp*nk pumped out of his stomach...idiot !!
Just have to add my vote here. I have been a masive prince fan since i first heard Lovesexy I went out that weekend and bought all his old material and every cd since:rocker:
Seen him live many times, his music has not been so good recently but despite the strong religous element which I could do without i think rainbow children rocks!
Jazzatola
01-01-2003, 21:00
Club members were treated to a new year's gift today: a new jazz instrumental album from the purple one himself called Xpectation. Pretty groovy stuff on first listen. Anyway, if you're a NPGMC member you can download it here:
http://www.npgmusicclub.com/members/scgi/npgmusicclub/files
:rocker:
All I've got to do now is track down a copy of Kamasutra. Anyone got one to sell?
Radiohead
01-01-2003, 21:26
He's never done it for me at all, but I can see why he's admired.
Fans of Prince should check out the new An Evening With Kevin Smith DVD. He tells a great anecdote of his involvement in making a documentary on the strange purple one. It's on the 2nd disc and lasts about 20 minutes. Very interesting and VERY funny!
gjkendall
02-01-2003, 07:48
I have just downloaded the new years gift from the NPGMC, excellent stuff, but is this not the album called Xenophophobia?
Originally posted by gjkendall
I have just downloaded the new years gift from the NPGMC, excellent stuff, but is this not the album called Xenophophobia?
Yes it is - Prince dropped Xenophobia seeing as it is on the recently released box set. Otherwise the track listing remains the same.
Listened to it a few times and am impressed. Vanessa Mae sounds great on it too.
NOT a commercial record though :)
Originally posted by Jazzatola
All I've got to do now is track down a copy of Kamasutra. Anyone got one to sell?
I can do you a copy if you wanna trade.
gjkendall
02-01-2003, 14:04
SWANNY: could I be really rude and ask you a favour, I have no way of burning the new Xenophobia downloads to cd-r (I only have pc access at work and do not have a writable drive!
Would you be able to burn it for me please? 'kin cheeky of me, but I thought I'd ask.
Gavin
Jazzatola
02-01-2003, 14:56
Originally posted by swanny
I can do you a copy if you wanna trade.
YGM :)
Muddy Mudskipper
25-05-2003, 13:07
I see it's now $25 a year to join the NPG Music Club, what do you actually get for that? And how come it was originally $100? Was that lifetime membership?
And another thing, the sign-up page isn't secure. :suspect:
If its only $25 a year I'd defintely sign up. I looked into it a while back but thought $100 was way too much, despite being a big fan. Has everyone's gone down to $25 pa or is this some kind of cutdown membership??
Cheers
Signup page IS secure. It's held in a frameset so you don't see the padlock. Stupid way of doing things, but I wouldn't have joined if it was insecure.
Edit: Just noticed the page has changed since it was launched. The signup page is insecure, the page that links to is. They have forgotten to link the signup page to their secure server, since it's available at https://www.npgmusicclub.com/register.php
And see http://www.npgmusicclub.com/promo/
Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
I see it's now $25 a year to join the NPG Music Club, what do you actually get for that? And how come it was originally $100? Was that lifetime membership?
And another thing, the sign-up page isn't secure. :suspect:
The $100 last year got you the promise of four CDs over the year which Prince just managed to fulfill.
This year the $25 gets you the promise of nothing. You do however get a completetly crap web site to look at full of Jehovahs bull and the like.
Prince has truly gone mental. :(
Oh dear - maybe I wont be signing up after all :(
$25 isn't that much tho to take a chance on - and you might get the new album sent right to your door for free within that (you never know).
Dah_woim
27-05-2003, 22:14
I think his stuff is fantastic, and have bought many albums of his (have been a fan since I started buy music, my 5th tape & my 2nd cd)
However, I do hate to say this, but with the sheer volume of the stuff he writes, you'd expect the amount of amazing stuff he puts out.... I still think a lot of the stuff on some of his albums is a bit pants.
Dah_woim
27-05-2003, 22:16
Originally posted by Philc
Shouldn't the thread read?
Prince:Pervert
He removed two of his ribs so that he could give himself fellatio.
Oh yeah, and don't forget Richard Gere and the hamster! (if you hear it enough times, it's bound to be true)
Originally posted by Dah_woim
Oh yeah, and don't forget Richard Gere and the hamster! (if you hear it enough times, it's bound to be true)
I don't know what's worse. The idiots who make stuff like that up, or the retards who believe it and post it as fact. :oh-hum:
gjkendall
28-05-2003, 11:40
Is there a new P album in the pipeline?
(Trying to get the thread back on topic):nuts: :dork:
Yep, so it seems. The music club "vault" has been updated to show a new album, 2003, called NEWS.
All the info on the page is simply:
Tracklist:
North 14:00
East 14:00
West 14:00
South 14:00
Produced by: Prince
Notes: NPGMC 2003
I believe there is a sample on the site somewhere that I'll have a listen to when I'm home from work.
gjkendall
28-05-2003, 13:51
antonyg: EXCELLENT news, I have paid for this years membership, but only have internet access at work and am unable to download music to disc! I really do hope this club is not a "download" only club! As this would be a waste of time for me, I would then have to rely on kind people sending me copies on cdr!
I so hope this is to be sent out to members!
Finges crossed and waiting for the NEWS.
Gavin
gjkendall
12-06-2003, 12:30
Prince has a new cd out on the 19th June!
Its called N.E.W.S. and consists of 4 tracks (North, East, West and South). It is going to be an instrumental disc and will be only available through the NPGMC!
Do you happen to know if NEWS will be free for NPGMC members, or if the reduced membership fee means that it will cost extra (but still be exclusive)?
I couldn't afford to join last year and have been tempted by the new lower fee -- but since I'd be joining for the music (rather than any special website features) I wonder how much value this would be.
gjkendall
12-06-2003, 14:27
Originally posted by smst
Do you happen to know if NEWS will be free for NPGMC members, or if the reduced membership fee means that it will cost extra (but still be exclusive)?
I couldn't afford to join last year and have been tempted by the new lower fee -- but since I'd be joining for the music (rather than any special website features) I wonder how much value this would be.
From what little information there is on this cd, I cannot promise this is true! But it would appear to be a members only exclusive cd, but wether we are expected to pay extra, i don't know....
try www.prince.org for more information, I find this site very useful!:clap:
Cheers -- that site looks useful. Guess I'll wait for the reports on the availability and decide what I'm prepared to pay.
JonLaidlow
13-06-2003, 08:29
I thought he was a god until just after LoveSexy, but he lost it big time after that and has never been the same.
J
Originally posted by gjkendall
try www.prince.org for more information, I find this site very useful!:clap:
There is very little useful information posted there, a far cry from in the past when there were numerous news items posted daily, that were informative to read.
Now, the site is a very bad example of what happens when moderators don't care. The amount of possibly slanderous, insulting, and profanity filled material posted there is amazing. And that isn't mentioning the inane, infantile posts made. It's so annoying to have to go there for any latest news. :oh-hum:
This is a good site
http://www.dawnation.com/indexnews.html
Radiohead
13-06-2003, 14:25
I have to say that Prince is one artist that I've never had much time for. To me his output seems to be a few gems but an awful lot of self-indulgent nonsense.
And I should know, I'ma Radiohead fan.
gjkendall
19-06-2003, 06:44
The new album N.E.W.S. is available from today, for members only!
It costs $10 plus $8.99 international shipping!
Shipping starts on the 25th June
Pop along to the official website and look for the banner hanging in the main foyer!
Prince was a musical Genius of the highest order and wrote several of my all time favourite songs.
But the 'symbol' album that was the start of a rapid descent in bad craziness. He's lost it completely now and i don't rate the present day prince at all. Doesn't he release two or three albums a year now?
Prince to appear at Glastonbury 2004
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3029330.stm
Well I received the new album NEWS today.
Some interesting stuff on there although it does plod at times. Not up to the Madhouse stuff in my opinion but nice to hear Prince trying different things.
You can get it online here:
http://entertainment.msn.com/netcal/?netcal=370
Or
http://www4.cd-wow.com/detail_results.php?product_code=6181
gjkendall
11-10-2005, 21:06
Anyone have any news on new releases from Prince? I am currently putting my Prince collection to my ipod and it's gonna take me a LONG time!!!!
Any idea what is on the Work volumes 3 - 8?
I asked a month or 2 ago on here if there was any chance of Prince ever doing the Musicology tour over here but response was things are very quiet in the Prince camp atm
Could be good news though - may be writing/rehearsing for a full scale tour next year (I wish :) )
SpankySpanky
16-10-2005, 13:06
Maybe this is the reason why things are quiet at the moment? (http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/pages/live/articles/showbiz/showbiznews.html?in_article_id=365369&in_page_id=1773&in_a_source=)
:eek:
Jazzatola
16-10-2005, 13:13
Two words: National Enquirer.
Two words: National Enquirer.
Agreed - what a load of old tosh. Any article which only refers to "a source" must be taken with more than a pinch of salt
Also :
In 2000, he adopted a symbol as his name and insisted on being referred to as The Artist Formerly Known As Prince in a bizarre act of rebellion against his record company.
In 2000 ??? WTF?! Great journalism...
SpankySpanky
16-10-2005, 15:09
Sorry, chaps, I genuinely didn't see the National Enquiry 'credit' in the article. Agreed they have less scruples than The Sun when it comes to printing the truth.
A post on Prince's official forums denies surgery of any kind.
Jazzatola
16-10-2005, 21:55
Sorry, chaps, I genuinely didn't see the National Enquiry 'credit' in the article.Fair enough. But the Daily Mail was bad enough for me :)
Some news on a new Prince single\CD\tour. The following was posted on Housequake.com and is alledgedly an internal memo from Universal:
HERE IS AN OFFICIAL EMAIL FROM MOTOWN_UNIVERSAL
Have a ball!!
Dear all:
It was confirmed yesterday that Universal Motown in the States have completed a deal with Prince.
In light of this prestigious signing, we are rush-releasing an e-exclusive to run Tuesday 13 December.
"Te Amo Corazon" is an introduction to the forthcoming new album to be released 2006 (Spring, TBC). This will be released commercially but not as formal single.
The video for "Te Amo Corazon" was directed by the actress Selma Hayek. We will be announcing details of it's premiere/online partner ex U.S. later this week. In the States, VH-1 will be the partner premiering the clip, Tuesday 13 December.
"Te Amo Corazon" will be sent to multiple radio formats in the States with immediate effect.
More details to follow regarding the first single and the album itself, along with plans for a world tour beginning Summer 2006.
corkbouy
07-12-2005, 01:55
is it just me or does it sound like this guy is up his own arse? maybe THAT'S why he got those ribs removed! ;)
err yeah thanks for that insightful post corkbouy :?:
Anyway, Billboard are now posting some info. Looks like we have a new Cd on the way and tour next year. :thumbs:
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001657906
gjkendall
12-12-2005, 07:34
I am a little disappointed with what I have heard of the new single so far...seems to be a fairly slow/plain ballad...P really should of got things up and running with something FONKY!
Kirs-tea
12-12-2005, 12:17
I've never been a big fan but I like a few of his songs from the 80s and early 90s.... I reckon Prince lost it a while back.
So what if he's so talented and can play every instrument?! All he has produced recently is over the top rubbish!
I've never been a big fan but I like a few of his songs from the 80s and early 90s.... I reckon Prince lost it a while back.
So what if he's so talented and can play every instrument?! All he has produced recently is over the top rubbish!
Have to disagree. Aside from the noodling jazz stuff most of his recent work is great - Musicology and Chocolate Invasion both have some top notch tracks and the One Night Alone stuff (not the live album but the fan-club only release which is more or less just Prince and a piano) is wonderful.
One Nite Alone (piano) is indeed full of great stuff, inc Avalanche, perhaps his modern masterpiece. It's a pity it didn't get a wider release although there was something very throwaway about it at the same time (melodies re-appearing in later tracks, simple production, etc), like it would have been a completely different album if he'd ever intended it for wider consumption. There's no doubting that quality control took a serious dip on Crystal Ball, a promising set which sadly had him pointlessly tinkering with already-perfect bootlegs (Crucial), alternate versions of recent material, even stuff that only ever made VHS releases (about half of the rest of it) and complete and utter doggerel (Cloreen Bacon Skin), the liner notes from which talk it up in such a way I can only ever think of that Ferris Bueller musical moment - 'never had one lesson'. From then on his work has been patchy, if still often utterly brilliant. But the quality control has taken a mighty hit, and he can no longer use the 'never meant for public hearing' excuse he used on Chaos & Disorder & The Vault (both 50% brilliant in any case).
There are three schools of thought when it comes to Prince and his 'genuis' years (he's the only pop act I'd say falls unquestionably into that overused category). The Purple Rain - Lovesexy period, the Purple Rain - Emancipation period, or the 'he's still as good as he ever was' brigade. I fall into the middle category myself. He did some of his best stuff (for himself and others) between Graffiti Bridge and Emancipation.
anephric
12-12-2005, 18:31
There are three schools of thought when it comes to Prince and his 'genuis' years (he's the only pop act I'd say falls unquestionably into that overused category). The Purple Rain - Lovesexy period, the Purple Rain - Emancipation period, or the 'he's still as good as he ever was' brigade. I fall into the middle category myself. He did some of his best stuff (for himself and others) between Graffiti Bridge and Emancipation.
It's definitely the first bracket for me (as a Prince fan) - Parade is a peak that he's never come close to attaining again and seems to me to be his definitive album. I wish he'd kept that sound a while longer (the formative Around the World in a Day comes close, but doesn't have the beautiful, seemingly effortless flow of Parade).
I still buy Prince albums, but his mature "funk" seems lazy and rather boringly allusive. That said, I liked New Power Soul, which was just nasty, lazy and every other pejorative adjective. George Clinton on a really bad day.
Barney_Tabasco
12-12-2005, 18:55
I've always stood by him and as McD said, there are still some absolute gems and for that he is worth sticking with.
I'd add an additional bracket though to McDs periods (or extend one of them). Personally i think 1999 to the Symbol album is worth considering as his classic period. You could take it back to Dirty Mind but then you have Controversy stuck between DM and 1999. Either way, this is one hell of a golden period and i agree - genius through and through.
Sign of the Times - Brilliant album. If only it wasnt a double :thumbs:
Barney_Tabasco
12-12-2005, 21:52
Sign O' The Times - Brilliant album. Thank god it's a double ;)
Sign O' The Times - shame it wasn't the planned triple album Crystal Ball. Now that would have blown people away.
Barney_Tabasco
12-12-2005, 22:10
swanny wins :lol:
I do agree actually. One of the best albums of all time did actually have a chance to be even better.
KeyserSoze
12-12-2005, 22:46
Am i supposed to have been an 80s teen to appreciate his older stuff ?
I love Purple Rain (the song that is, not the whole album) and im listening to Sign O Times now and its not really doing much for me. Sounds like the stuff i come out with when i play with my Casio keyboard. Maybe its a grower, seems like most of the good stuff out of the 80s is.
EDIT: getting to the end of CD1 and is getting better
Can anyone recommend the Hits/B Sides set ? theres quite a few songs i like in there.
GrossePointeJack
12-12-2005, 23:27
Yes, the Hits/B Sides set is pretty great. Though it's not really in production order so sometimes the jump can be a bit jarring.
Believe me it took me a while to get into 'Sign O The Times' as well. But once you do it's a fantastic listen.
Am i supposed to have been an 80s teen to appreciate his older stuff ?
I love Purple Rain (the song that is, not the whole album) and im listening to Sign O Times now and its not really doing much for me. Sounds like the stuff i come out with when i play with my Casio keyboard. Maybe its a grower, seems like most of the good stuff out of the 80s is.
EDIT: getting to the end of CD1 and is getting better
Can anyone recommend the Hits/B Sides set ? theres quite a few songs i like in there.
I have a slighly different perspective from you on this as I bought SOTT the day it was released and have probably listened to that album more than any other. At the time the album was unlike anything else in pop. Prince got sounds out of a drum machine that were pioneering at the time.
Disk 2 does have the stronger material on it though.
swanny wins :lol:
I do agree actually. One of the best albums of all time did actually have a chance to be even better.
Imagine if the track Crystal Ball has seen the light of day in 1987. How many parts does that one track have :eek: Truly the work of genius.
By all accounts Prince was never happy with the SOTT double album as he always saw the 3 disk Crystal Ball album as his next release. Hard to think that the song Sign O' The times could have been just another album track.
Barney_Tabasco
13-12-2005, 00:28
Am i supposed to have been an 80s teen to appreciate his older stuff ?
I love Purple Rain (the song that is, not the whole album) and im listening to Sign O Times now and its not really doing much for me. Sounds like the stuff i come out with when i play with my Casio keyboard. Maybe its a grower, seems like most of the good stuff out of the 80s is.
EDIT: getting to the end of CD1 and is getting better
Can anyone recommend the Hits/B Sides set ? theres quite a few songs i like in there.
Seriously mate, read up about him and you'll realise we are not just a bunch of old buggers banging on about dated music. Prince was a revolution (excuse the pun) in music and is up there (and this is not just opinion) with James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Michael Jackson, Ray Charles, Stevie Wonder, Jimi Hendrix et al. A true great. Unfortunately (for his legacy) he is still alive so cannot be judged as such by the general public (especially those not around at the time) but his time will come.
Idle Child
13-12-2005, 02:50
I've been listening to 3 Prince tracks religiously:
Darling Nikki
The Beautiful Ones
Scandalous
(the latter two are just something else as far as i'm concerned. They are beautiful tracks, about love, infatuation, sex, yearning with Prince doing his high pitched squeeling thing, but wonderfully so. What vocal genius! They remind me so much of the eighties, they are songs of the time they were concieved for sure, but somehow still hold despite some dated musical production from the Purple One)
I had a listen to the "Scandalous Sex Suite" EP, released about the time of Batman, and it takes the Scandalous track and plays with it. But in my opnion, there's nothing on there that matched the superb edit for the Scandalous music video, which is a slightly different (and imo, improved) cut of Scandalous (the original cut features on the Batman concept album). But the music vid is great because it minimises Prince's tendency to go off onto an odd tangent with the song as found on the original track, and keeps the track focused on the best bit, the chorus. The video is something else too. Prince is defintely an artist unafraid to play with his sexuality. The Scandalous music vid has him dressed in a red 50s suit, looking adrogenous (if not feminate), and practically seducing the microphone. Great art, always. :notworthy
anephric
13-12-2005, 08:33
I've got a dodgy cover album of Purple Rain (called Purple Pain, iirc) which is the entire album covered by various Scandinavian hardcore bands. It's tripe for the most part, but the cover of Darling Nikki is actually really, really good (I forget who it's by).
Sign O Times now and its not really doing much for me. Sounds like the stuff i come out with when i play with my Casio keyboard. Maybe its a grower, seems like most of the good stuff out of the 80s is.
EDIT: getting to the end of CD1 and is getting better
Can anyone recommend the Hits/B Sides set ? theres quite a few songs i like in there.
SOTT is one of those albums that just gets better with every listen. There isn't a bad second on it imo, but then I've listened to it about 50 million times! Give it a chance, The Cross is awesome, never take the Place of Your Man is the only Prince song my wife will listen to and Forever in My life still blows me away with every listen.
B SIdes album is great, worth getting just for that. With songs like 17 Days, Feel U Up, Don't Call me Anymore and Irresistable Bitch, its a must have.
Don't know if you've already got it, but Lovesexy is the best album released by anyone ever and will never be bettered.
Imagine if the track Crystal Ball has seen the light of day in 1987. How many parts does that one track have :eek: Truly the work of genius.
By all accounts Prince was never happy with the SOTT double album as he always saw the 3 disk Crystal Ball album as his next release. Hard to think that the song Sign O' The times could have been just another album track.
Crystal Ball - :notworthy
Remember rushing to Our Price when the compilation with The Truth came out, £50!!! Worth every single penny though to finally listen to Crysatl Ball.Over 10 minutes, its got everything but the kitchen sink in there and never should work, but what an amazing song.Warners and/or Prince should have been braver in the 80s and released it but I think those were different times as is shown by the fiasco surrrounding the Black Album
anephric
13-12-2005, 09:22
Don't know if you've already got it, but Lovesexy is the best album released by anyone ever and will never be bettered.
I find Lovesexy palls after the first couple of tracks; then again if the small purple one had actually chapterised the CD I might be inclined to listen to it more often...
There are three schools of thought when it comes to Prince and his 'genuis' years (he's the only pop act I'd say falls unquestionably into that overused category). The Purple Rain - Lovesexy period, the Purple Rain - Emancipation period, or the 'he's still as good as he ever was' brigade.
I'd say he was head and shoulders above everyone in the world between 1982 and 1989, after that we saw glimpses(Gold Expereince/Parts of Symbol/Rainvbpw Children) but nothing quite as good. Speaking as a fan, but still, each album from 1999 to Lovesexy is almost flawless and not only that if you listen to them chronollogically you can hear him improving with each passing year.
Again, speaking as a bit of an obsessive fan, if Price had died in say 1990, I think he'd now be regarded as The Beatles are. Unfortunately, its undeniable that he's lost touch of that amazzing ability he had to write a pop song
I had a listen to the "Scandalous Sex Suite" EP, released about the time of Batman, and it takes the Scandalous track and plays with it.
He used to do this quite regularly between the Batman period and The Gold Experience. When Prince uses the word remix it's almost never what he actually means. A Prince remix (as found on those multi-track EPs) was often a complete reworking/re-recording on the song and not a tinkering with the better known version. I think he does this much more than we know and there's the strong possibility that many Prince tracks you don't care for exist in transformed alternate recordings that you would probably love. I did read that he recorded the song Thunder (Diamonds & Pearls opener) from the ground up more than 35 times to try and 'find' the track. He could probably have released a Get Off / Scandalous / Space / Beautiful type CD for a fair chunk of his output. 'Come' is a good example - a track that had actually played on TV before the album came out, only to replaced by an unrecognisable 'variation' for the album. Then shortly afterwards both were replaced, certainly as far as his shows were concerned, by a third which saved little bar the title (since released on Crystal Ball).
All My Dreams is my personal favourite from the scrapped Crystal Ball / Dream Factory era, a shame it didn't see a proper release in more recent years. I believe that any tracks with a heavy Wendy & Lisa involvement are being held back indefinitely. Sadly, this probably means that he wants to tinker with them as a threesome, which isn't a good sign. As the 18th century Prince once said, 'You can't rewrite what's perfect.'
Barney_Tabasco
13-12-2005, 11:15
Ah, All My Dreams - one of my faves too. I think i have that on a Black Album bootleg with extra tracks on the end.
Why would any tracks with Wendy and Lisa on get held back?
Ah, All My Dreams - one of my faves too. I think i have that on a Black Album bootleg with extra tracks on the end.
Why would any tracks with Wendy and Lisa on get held back?
I had it originally on a Parade outtakes tape called Charade, but I think it dates from the SOTT period.
He was allegedly planning a Prince & The Revolution only (which for him I think mostly means with W & L) Crystal Ball type release called Roadhouse Garden. Exactly what he is waiting for is unknown. I can only imagine he wants to touch up the tracks with them. Although talking of touching up, apparently the fact that lesbianism is a crime against Jehovah is what is slowing up the reunion. He is waiting on W & L to publicly renounce the furry cup before he can liaise with them on a clear conscience.
anephric
13-12-2005, 11:26
Does anyone have the Prince remixes of various NiN tracks? I've read that they don't exist, exist in half-finished states etc (because Reznor didn't get on with Mr. Rogers Nelson as he existed completely up his own fundament). I've got some stuff on bootleg but it could be by anybody.
Apparently Prince loved Broken.
anephric
13-12-2005, 11:29
Although talking of touching up, apparently the fact that lesbianism is a crime against Jehovah is what is slowing up the reunion. He is waiting on W & L to publicly renounce the furry cup before he can liaise with them on a clear conscience.
His Jehovan tendencies are frankly ridiculous - he's started changing song lyrics to remove things offensive to his newfound piety.
His Jehovan tendencies are frankly ridiculous - he's started changing song lyrics to remove things offensive to his newfound piety.
The sign of a true 'Genius'. ;)
I too am a huge Prince fan. Crystal Ball is a work of utmost fabulousness.
It is a shame that yes his albums since have not reached such great heights.
I have yet to see him perform live (except on tape) and just hope that I can do that before either he or I pop our cloggs!
I have yet to see him perform live (except on tape) and just hope that I can do that before either he or I pop our cloggs!
You've got nowt to worry about there, unless you're an old codger yourself. I can see Prince performing for another thirty years. And despite recent years, the UK has traditionally seen more of him than the US.
EDIT: this is an older thread than I realised. Completely repeating myself. Another old post from earlier...
The NPG album Exodus was pretty good, Count The Days is amazing.:D
I agree it's an amazing track in every way but one - the lyrics. I'm not afraid of mofo this-and-that on a Prince record, but it was just so out of place on this one. But the melody and the performances were outstanding.
I have yet to see him perform live (except on tape) and just hope that I can do that before either he or I pop our cloggs!
Tbh, now is the best time to see him. When i saw him first on the Nude tour at NEC he was a bit distant and the show overall was nowhere near as good as at Manchester on the One Nite Alone tour. By playing smaller venues, I think the need to just focus on hits and a "show" has gone to be replaced by just excellent musicianship and varied song selection. When he did Empty Room it was :notworthy
anephric
13-12-2005, 12:28
I really loved The Exodus Has Begun on the NPG album: true, the distorted vocals grate, but the song always cheers me up immeasurably. Polyvinylacetate, New Power Soul! Guaranteed to lift the roof of your Oldsmobile, ************!
Lee Brown
13-12-2005, 12:55
I find Lovesexy palls after the first couple of tracks; then again if the small purple one had actually chapterised the CD I might be inclined to listen to it more often...
If you have a PC and a CD Writer (plus a bit of time), you can chop the single track into individual songs. It's one of the first things I did when I bought my first CD writer.
Barney_Tabasco
13-12-2005, 16:06
Although talking of touching up, apparently the fact that lesbianism is a crime against Jehovah is what is slowing up the reunion. He is waiting on W & L to publicly renounce the furry cup before he can liaise with them on a clear conscience.
I always (obviously naively) thought the lesbian thing was part of the act - didn't realise they were actually girl-on-girl orientated!
gjkendall
13-12-2005, 16:11
Prince performed recently with Wendy and Lisa (I think it was Wendy's brithday gig)...
Am i supposed to have been an 80s teen to appreciate his older stuff ?
I love Purple Rain (the song that is, not the whole album) and im listening to Sign O Times now and its not really doing much for me. Sounds like the stuff i come out with when i play with my Casio keyboard. Maybe its a grower, seems like most of the good stuff out of the 80s is.
EDIT: getting to the end of CD1 and is getting better
Can anyone recommend the Hits/B Sides set ? theres quite a few songs i like in there.
iirc 101cd.com had the 3CD hits set for about £6.99.Shocking bargain!
Good to see this thread become so active again. Forgotten about alot of these old bootlegs being discussed :thumbs:
I always (obviously naively) thought the lesbian thing was part of the act - didn't realise they were actually girl-on-girl orientated!
I thought it was an act too until relatively recently. It strikes me as one of the most intense relationships I can think of. They have been best friends since early school age, they work together and are also lovers! I read a few years ago that they had parted ways as a couple but were still working together. I've never read anything more.
They didn't come out until about five years ago I think. Wendy's brother, Jonathan Melvoin, had been playing keyboards with The Smashing Pumpkins and died of a heroin overdose mid-tour. They came out around that time and the subsequent album, Girl Bros, dealt with both issues. Without exagerrating, it easily bests anything Prince (and just about everybody else) has done in the last 10 years. It's one of less than 5 CDs I own 2 copies of (1 for each address I go between, pre-ipod days). If personal circumstances are ever going to push you to creative heights then this was obviously the time. There are some lesser tracks, but the big ones are simply awesome.
Prince was engaged to Wendy's sister, Susannah Melvoin, around the time of SOTT. Some of his best songs of the period are about her (Forever In My Life, Nothing Compares 2 U). If I Was Your Girlfriend is perhaps the most famous example, and was always explained away as Prince's commentary on her (deeper) relationship with her twin sister. It now looks more like a comment on the concurrent relationship between Wendy & Lisa that he felt he couldn't match.
I thought it was an act too until relatively recently. It strikes me as one of the most intense relationships I can think of. They have been best friends since early school age, they work together and are also lovers! I read a few years ago that they had parted ways as a couple but were still working together. I've never read anything more.
They didn't come out until about five years ago I think. Wendy's brother, Jonathan Melvoin, had been playing keyboards with The Smashing Pumpkins and died of a heroin overdose mid-tour. They came out around that time and the subsequent album, Girl Bros, dealt with both issues. Without exagerrating, it easily bests anything Prince (and just about everybody else) has done in the last 10 years. It's one of less than 5 CDs I own 2 copies of (1 for each address I go between, pre-ipod days). If personal circumstances are ever going to push you to creative heights then this was obviously the time. There are some lesser tracks, but the big ones are simply awesome.
Prince was engaged to Wendy's sister, Susannah Melvoin, around the time of SOTT. Some of his best songs of the period are about her (Forever In My Life, Nothing Compares 2 U). If I Was Your Girlfriend is perhaps the most famous example, and was always explained away as Prince's commentary on her (deeper) relationship with her twin sister. It now looks more like a comment on the concurrent relationship between Wendy & Lisa that he felt he couldn't match.
Interesting post - never knew that.
Also - in one paragraph you've mentioned all three of my most-loved Prince songs!
I'll get that Wendy + Lisa album McD, you've sold it to me.
anephric
13-12-2005, 16:52
I had no idea Jonathan Melvoin was Wendy's brother. The things you learn. My muso mate met Jimmy Chamberlain only a few weeks ago too.
Barney_Tabasco
13-12-2005, 16:55
The Girl Bros album has been on my wishlist for a while but it doesn't crop up that often (you can't get it on Amazon).
GrossePointeJack
13-12-2005, 17:51
I find the lack of love for the 'Batman' soundtrack on this thread disturbing.
Dinner with Delores is a great little track.
anephric
13-12-2005, 18:16
I find the lack of love for the 'Batman' soundtrack on this thread disturbing.
That's because it was pants and was an utterly inappropriate vanity project that was miles out of step with the film it was supposed to complement.
The Future's okay, but I fair can't stand the rest of it. Batdance makes me laugh (the video more so) and it's from this point onwards that you can chart the downward arch of the parabola of my love of Prince diminishing with each album.
I was 13-or-so when this came out, and I remember rushing out to buy it and slapping it on the stereo round my equally enthusiastic Prince-fan mate's house. We listened to it. Our faces darkened. My mate proclaimed, with all his 13-year-old wisdom, "He's turned into a bit of a kev, hasn't he?" (The use of the word "kev" was the style in Southend at the time.)
I find the lack of love for the 'Batman' soundtrack on this thread disturbing.
I found the Batman album to be one of his most throwaway (apart from Chaos And Disorder - although Dinner With Delores is a great track), I just couldn't get on with it at all when it came out. I have since grown to enjoy it somewhat, Scandalous is excellent and I like the remixes of The Future and Electric Chair. The Arms Of Orion is also good.
It's funny that I considered it a throwaway album, because he must have put much thought into it. The duality theme that runs throughout the story of Batman is something that he really connected with. Just look at his character in the Partyman video to see what I mean.
I have hoped for one more great album from Prince ever since he released Sign O' The Times (my absolute favourite). The Gold Experience came close, and Emancipation would have been an awesome single disc. Musicality was good, but I find a lot of what he does now to be sterile, this has happened since he hooked up with Larry Graham and started getting into the JW. I haven't been able to go back and listen to New Power Soul, Rave, The Rainbow Children.
GrossePointeJack
13-12-2005, 19:10
I was actually joking, but it's still fun to see people explain why they don't like it.
Plus I have a bootleg of Prince performing 'Batdance' live - and they crowd goes nuts for it - deluded fools.
anephric
13-12-2005, 19:18
I danced to Batdance in a club once: quite recently in fact (I made the DJ play it - it was my CD). The crimes never stop.
*sigh* hey ducky, let me stick the 7-inch in the computer...
Scandolous is a great song imo, and Batdance/Partyman were great throwaway pop at the time. But don't remind me about Lemon crush please, or Trust.
W. I haven't been able to go back and listen to New Power Soul, Rave, The Rainbow Children.
rainbow Children is his best album of the past 10 years. Its a MUST have imo. The others 2 actually smell of poo in my cd rack. Get Rainbow Children, i urge you!!!!
anephric- you can now get Lovesexy already split into it's fabulous tracks. I'm playing it now. WB must have seen sense and re-released it at some point.
Not much discussion of Grafiti Bridge? Starfish and Coffee anyone? No one a Mavis Staples fan?
anephric
13-12-2005, 19:35
The best thing on Graffiti Bridge is Morris Day.
Grafitti Bridge - Its worth how bad the whole project was just for Still Would Stand All Time and Question Of U. I've got Still would... on a CD called Small Club which is my favourite piece of Prince goodness.
Well this thread has inspired a Prince retrospective evening in my flat.
Family Name from One Night Alone. That track rocks.
Favourite Wendy and Lisa album? Have to go for Eroica - Porch Swing, Why Wait for Heaven? Beautiful voices and arrangements an that album. Still sounds surprisingly comtemporary compared to their other stuff which has dated quite a bit I think.
gjkendall
13-12-2005, 20:06
I am so into 1+1+1=3, from the Rainbow Children...PLAYED LOUD!
Batman? A very good album produced in next to no time. Why is it so hated? Coz it came after Purple Rain, ATWIAD, Parade, SOTT & Lovesexy - The Beatles probably never had so much to live up to. Scandalous and Arms of Orion are beautiful love songs, Trust and Batdance got great grooves. Batdance is an incredible piece of work, no matter what anyone says. Reinvents itself every 30 seconds from discarded tracks, clinically edited together with some hilarious liberties with the Batman dialogue. He must have had more fun than that than just about anything else he's ever done.
Graffiti Bridge, minus the non-Prince stuff (which is actually preferred in some quarters), is very solid indeed with a smatterring of classics.
Then it was all back on track (minus the albums he intentionally sabotaged, which included Come, Chas & Disorder & The Vault), until Emancipation's reasonable reception convinced him he was right all along and he missed the boat with Crystal Ball completely. 30 tracks from The Vault. The Vault, the greatest untapped treasure in music, and he wastes half of it in alternative versions of (at the time) tracks that were still warm. It's been a rocky ride for the modern day Mozart ever since.
Just bought the new single from the fanclub. Some nice arrangements - sounds a little bit like something from the Parade era.
rainbow Children is his best album of the past 10 years. Its a MUST have imo. The others 2 actually smell of poo in my cd rack. Get Rainbow Children, i urge you!!!!
I have it, I just can't listen to it.
Grafitti Bridge - Its worth how bad the whole project was just for Still Would Stand All Time and Question Of U. I've got Still would... on a CD called Small Club which is my favourite piece of Prince goodness.
Absolutely, the guitar solos are amazing!!!
One incredible song that I haven't heard anywhere else is People Without. A fantastic cover of Just My Imagination too.
I love the fact that a backing singer sings "Still WILL Stand All Time" for some time before he notices and then starts asking "Who's the fool singing Will?"
anephric
14-12-2005, 09:11
Batdance is an incredible piece of work, no matter what anyone says. Reinvents itself every 30 seconds from discarded tracks, clinically edited together with some hilarious liberties with the Batman dialogue. He must have had more fun than that than just about anything else he's ever done.
By "reinvent" you surely mean "raided Batman's bins and fashioned a bit of old patchwork junk that tries to be a dance track when the musician involved understands about as much about dance music as he does about rap."
Seriously, it's a terrible album because it's pompous, inappropriate and downright silly. It's akin to getting Mariah Carey to do the soundtrack to Se7en.
Graffiti Bridge is genuinely weak: disparite, lacking any sort of thematic consistency and partnered to a film so terrible (this coming from a man who enjoyed Under the Cherry Moon) it makes Fred Olen Ray smack his lips with jealousy.
Prince was just creatively lost in this period and fully ensconced in his own backside - truly. Daubing "SlaVe" on his face was emphatically illustrative of his own egomaniacially paranoid delusions of victimisation and an insult to indentured people worldwide. His flirtations with rap (which were bad enough on the Black album) rear their hideously ugly head henceforth and we get albums full of cack self-exaltation, "comedy" interludes that P-Funk would've rejected and songs whose only raison d'etre is to namecheck Prince as many times as possible (he manages to get that element of rap right).
By "reinvent" you surely mean "raided Batman's bins and fashioned a bit of old patchwork junk that tries to be a dance track when the musician involved understands about as much about dance music as he does about rap."
Seriously, it's a terrible album because it's pompous, inappropriate and downright silly. It's akin to getting Mariah Carey to do the soundtrack to Se7en.
Graffiti Bridge is genuinely weak: disparite, lacking any sort of thematic consistency and partnered to a film so terrible (this coming from a man who enjoyed Under the Cherry Moon) it makes Fred Olen Ray smack his lips with jealousy.
Prince was just creatively lost in this period and fully ensconced in his own backside - truly. Daubing "SlaVe" on his face was emphatically illustrative of his own egomaniacially paranoid delusions of victimisation and an insult to indentured people worldwide. His flirtations with rap (which were bad enough on the Black album) rear their hideously ugly head henceforth and we get albums full of cack self-exaltation, "comedy" interludes that P-Funk would've rejected and songs whose only raison d'etre is to namecheck Prince as many times as possible (he manages to get that element of rap right).
A big bowl of wrong. Batman was downright silly, so why the soundtrack seems inappropriate is best known to you alone. Perhaps you read the film as a modern day Citizen Kane when infact it is bubblegam pap (albeit in a different class to the following three). He did the best he probably could in the space of time available (under two months), producing an album fashioned by the movie producers as much as his own instinct (goodbye 200 Balloons & Rave).
The Prince stuff on Graffiti Bridge is very good indeed. The fact that the 'film' was a washout isn't important, save that it dictated the stylistic content of the tracks. How many (non-Prince) albums in history could boast an outtake as good as 'Grand Progression'?
His 'flirtations' with rap have produced many a great record from The Black Album on. He is absolutely correct that most rappers are tone deaf, and none of them understand rythm like Prince (listen to how he feels those empty spaces on P Control & Acknowledge Me). And none of them have half the sense of humour either.
As for Prince being up his backside... this dates back forever, and shouldn't be attached to any (alleged or otherwise) musical follies. He's as lost now as he was back in the days of Sign O The Times (the only period of mentalism he's freely admitted to), a Grade A fruitcake, even if the media picked on one period more than the others.
hey here's my tuppence...
This thread has got me listening to Prince again. I had The Gold Experience on in the car this morning and I was loving every minute of it. Dolphin is incredibly cheesy, but I love it completely...can't help singing along to those lyrics :) The second guitar solo on Ssshhh still sends shivers down my spine. I remember having tears in my eyes when I saw Prince do this live the only time I ever saw him (Gold Experience Tour, Manchester). He was about 20 feet away from me, topless, writhing on the floor playing this amazing solo on a black symbol guitar. I had a 'beatles moment' and wanted to cry.....when I turned around to look at my wife she was crying hysterically with joy with tears streaming down her face. Amazing moment.
anephric
14-12-2005, 12:28
A big bowl of wrong. Batman was downright silly, so why the soundtrack seems inappropriate is best known to you alone. Perhaps you read the film as a modern day Citizen Kane when infact it is bubblegam pap (albeit in a different class to the following three). He did the best he probably could in the space of time available (under two months), producing an album fashioned by the movie producers as much as his own instinct (goodbye 200 Balloons & Rave).
Iirc, it was Prince himself that expressed an interest in doing the soundtrack - it wasn't forced on him. And, yes (although I don't think the film is a classic by any means) as a Batman fan getting Prince to the soundtrack to a film of the Dark Knight's exploits was like rubbing perfume on a pig. Or East 17 on a goth. Whatever your analogy. Witness the musical tie-in for Batman Returns... Siouxsie and the Banshees. Much better.
I can recall when Prince started inflicting NPG "rap" stylings on his (predominately white, it must be remembered) fanbase and mates of mine who were into rap laughing their asses off at the godawful, affected, dilletantish nature of it all.
Part of the reason I also had more than enough of Prince is the almost total disrespect he had/has for his then-dwindling fanbase, by promising them free music (when, infamously, getting money out of him is like getting blood from an amethyst) and making ludicrous demands like imploring true fans to return all their singles to WB (at their expense). The fact that he "sabotaged" various WB albums whilst trying to wriggle out of his contract shows even more contempt.
I have the greatest respect for him as an artist up until about 1990, and then he developed a God complex so indomitable that it effectively removed his capacity to make decent editorial decisions (see also: Billy Corgan) in that no one around him was willing or able to apply a quality filter (part of the reason he took umbrage at WB's efforts to regularly space his album releases) - hence utterly self-indulgent (and fairly offensively self-righteous and pompous) 3-disc pap like Emancipation.
gjkendall
14-12-2005, 12:36
Was the Batman album not recorded by Prince on Jack Nicholsons recommendation? (It may even of been part of Jacks contract that P did the soundtrack!)
anephric
14-12-2005, 12:41
I think the film was well underway before Prince got involved.
gjkendall
14-12-2005, 12:47
Jack Nicholson is a huge Prince fan, he recommended P to Tim Burton, so Burton asked Prince to contribute songs for his Batman movie (at the time, he was using "1999" and "Baby I'm a Star" on a temporary soundtrack). Prince accepted while watching a rough cut of the movie and noticed four places in the film that would be "natural" locations for his songs.
Prince pieced this together overnight from music, sounds and dialogue from the movie Batman.
Everything that Prince composed for the movie, whether it was used or not, went onto his album... even something not offered to Burton for Batman: "Batdance."
Prince canceled a scheduled Paris vacation to write and produce songs for the movie. A month after the meeting with Burton, he played eight songs, all of them synchronized to the film. Burton rejected three of them (an instrumental theme, "Rave the Joy Fantastic," and "200 Balloons"), liked the other five and asked if Prince could supply two more. "Trust" and "Partyman" were quickly offered by the Purple One.
anephric
14-12-2005, 12:51
For someone that was keen on the stuff at the time, Burton is remarkably mealy-mouthed when asked his opinion of it now.
Idle Child
14-12-2005, 18:54
Seriously, it's a terrible album because it's pompous, inappropriate and downright silly. It's akin to getting Mariah Carey to do the soundtrack to Se7en.
No, i'm not sure i agree. It's of it's time and for me, as a child of the eighties, it's something of an iconic concept album, fusing together music and movies, comics and pop music. To have the marketting gurus at Warner go down the hall and sign up thier no.1 Artist, Prince for the first ever Batman movie (when Prince was obviously such a force in the 80s) made so much sense that it would've actually have been silly not to.
Ok, Burton seems a little confused and somewhat unaware of the whole Studio process of the "franchise" and the marketting forces that came into play (atleast on the recent Batman DVD he does!) to get Prince to do the music, but i think the film is not as disjointed in the final product as one might have thought.
Everytime i watch Batman, there's not one momment when i feel that Prince's tracks don't sit well in the movie. We always have Danny Elfman's orchestral score to thump and pound and sound menacing for the Dark Knight, or waltzy and weird for the Joker. But Prince adds something else to the mixture to capture the feel of the era in which the film was made, an injection of something cool and outlandish, but also pop-musically credible.
I agree though, that Batdance is a bit stupid and annoying (more like a kind of party track for kids), but the song Scandalous is just supremely romantic and very adult themed - as i said previously it's one of my absolute favourite Prince songs. I don't think the Batman album is an amazing album - but it does however have it's great bits.
what albums did he sabotage, and how? made them crap?
and rave un2 the joy fantastic was done in the 80`s? not the 2000 release?
I was a huge fan in the 90s where his tours were awesome especially 1993 & 1995 with an aftershow at Paradisio, Amsterdam a must
His Rainbow Children project is awesome
Cannot wait for the new cd
what albums did he sabotage, and how? made them crap?
and rave un2 the joy fantastic was done in the 80`s? not the 2000 release?
He sabotaged Chaos & Disorder and The Vault. The liner notes explain that Prince didn't want to release the material included and only did so to fulfill a contractual obligation. I'm not sure we would have seen the likes of Zannalee, Right The Wrong or Sarah otherwise. Nothing wrong with most of The Vault, but it was the poorer scrappings from a side project that suddenly became 'a Prince album'. 'Come' may also have suffered the same fate, given that Warner Bros refused to release The Gold Experience the same day, per his wishes. Prince may then have 'weakened' Come (certainly bookended by two misjudgements).
Rave was written for Batman, and then released unchanged (as far as I know) over 10 years later. He doesn't do that often - taking an age old track and releasing it like it was new. And when he does, he normally tinkers with it a hell of a lot.
what albums did he sabotage, and how? made them crap?
and rave un2 the joy fantastic was done in the 80`s? not the 2000 release?
Rave un2 The Joy Fantastic was recorded in 1988. Prince held it back because he felt it was too similar to Kiss. The version on the Rave album is the original 1988 recording.
niceblokejohn
24-12-2005, 15:33
Girlfriend just heard them mention on the radio a Prince tour next year to coincide with new album - does anyone know any more info/dates? :D
this is probably your best best www.prince.org
watch the new video here (http://www.vh1.com/artists/az/prince/artist.jhtml) :thumbs:
I reckon thats the most boring song I have ever heard. A big thumbs down from me.
Now why didn't I see this thread before :shrug: :?: :thinking:
I was a HUGE fan of the purple one in the 1980's - I bought every album from Purple Rain to Diamonds & Pearls - then for some strange reason I stopped buying his albums until 1999, then I bought Rave & then I bought the Concert DVD he did at Paisley Park on Millenium Eve - I haven't bought anything he's done since. I must get round to filling the gaps in my collection...... :dork:
Now why didn't I see this thread before :shrug: :?: :thinking:
I was a HUGE fan of the purple one in the 1980's - I bought every album from Purple Rain to Diamonds & Pearls - then for some strange reason I stopped buying his albums until 1999, then I bought Rave & then I bought the Concert DVD he did at Paisley Park on Millenium Eve - I haven't bought anything he's done since. I must get round to filling the gaps in my collection...... :dork:
Some recommendations:
Gold -1995
Emancipation 1996
this is probably your best best www.prince.org
This place is better : http://www.housequake.com/
Prince.org is full of women posting "what is Prince like as a lover" :cuckoo:
Housequake has a more mature tone and some superb forums - the video one that streams various Prince performances of the past (released and unreleased) is particularly good.
Some recommendations:
Gold -1995
Emancipation 1996
I'm a huge fan of Chaos + Disorder, don't ask me why but i just love it. released same year as Emancipation and far better. Emancipation is such a bloated self indulgant load of rubbish that you go mad searching for the good songs amongst it. My Computer, Friend, Lover etc are virtually the only songs I revisit on it. The covers are probably the best songs, and i hate saying that about a Price album.
This place is better : http://www.housequake.com/
Prince.org is full of women posting "what is Prince like as a lover" :cuckoo:
Housequake has a more mature tone and some superb forums - the video one that streams various Prince performances of the past (released and unreleased) is particularly good.
Cheers
:clap:
New album 3121 confirmed by Universal as due for release on 21 March :thumbs:
gjkendall
18-01-2006, 12:44
Plus a new greatest hits (which is apparently going to be something special) is out the week before!
Wonder what will make this special? Maybe an acoustic best of....! Or extended version best of....!
Hmmmm, I wonder!
Maybe an acoustic best of....!
Oooh - that WOULD be special!
gjkendall
18-01-2006, 21:01
As I remember it...this greatest hits is the final release that Warners can do with Prince material (in a best of package)...they released the Hits/B-sides, they then released the appaling Very best of Prince...I can only but hope and prey they do something nice with this package!
As I remember it...this greatest hits is the final release that Warners can do with Prince material (in a best of package)...they released the Hits/B-sides, they then released the appaling Very best of Prince...I can only but hope and prey they do something nice with this package!
The Very Best of Prince is the only Prince album I don't own.
The Very Best of Prince is the only Prince album I don't own.
same here...can do a much better compilation of my own thanks Warner Brothers :thumbs:
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