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My favourite would have to be JACKIE CHAN.
without a doubt.
poolking
04-12-2002, 23:14
Originally posted by tiger33
My favourite would have to be JACKIE CHAN.
without a doubt.
:clap:
I have to second that.
splobber
04-12-2002, 23:14
Originally posted by tiger33
My favourite would have to be JACKIE CHAN.
Why? :nuts:
My favourite one has to be that chinese bloke who seemed to be in every action film in the 1980's. Nobody knows his name coz he's too hard.
moving to the dvd & movie forum
Kobe Tai and Asia Carrera :clap:
Jackie Chan or Chow Yun Fat
Gotta love the John Woo films :notworthy
Best Asian Movie Star
Jeon Ji-Hyun:notworthy :notworthy
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Why?
:norty:
Originally posted by 8-]
Kobe Tai :clap:
Bit too noisy for my liking... Right old gob on her that one.. I quite like Asia Carrera :thumbs:
I like Jackie Chan because he doesnt try to be anyone else other than himself.
In single handly started the comedy Martial Arts Genre!
His style is unique and special. When u watch Jackie Chan you know its JACKIE CHAN. Jackie Chan is not replacable in any of his movies. Whereas when you watch a Jet Li movie he could easily be replaced by any other Asian Martial Arts Star (i.e, Donnie Yuen). You could never replace Chan because not many stars have the same abilities as he does.
His combined Martials arts and Acrobatic ability are second to none.
what i respect most about Jackie Chan is his way of thinking.
He doesnt try to be the hard guy in any of his movies (because its been done to death by everything other action star), But instead he plays the fool who gets by on wit.
He also doesnt believe in killing anyone in his movies (because he sees himself as a role model to other people - you're not much of a role model if you go around killing all the guys in your movies - unlike other stars)
there are alot of other things i like about Jackie Chan and his style of movie making but i would just go on for ever so i'll just leave it at that.
What about everyone else which Asian Stars do you like?
and why?
Apu from the Simpsons :nuts:
Chow Yun Fat, cause he's supercool.
Johnny_Dangerously
05-12-2002, 00:17
It has to be Michelle Yeoh for me.
The finest looking asian woman on the planet who does shed loads of nuts stunts. Did you see the motorbike on the train stunt in Police Story 3? Whadda Woman:norty:
wonderpants
05-12-2002, 00:26
That Zang bird, because she looks all foxy leather'd up in Rush hour 2, as does Jeon Ji-Hyun she's probably just as foxy and even my missus said she's good looking.
Its gotta be Michelle Yeoh. She is beyond compare. If anyone knows much about her career history and achievements, then they will have the utmost respect and admiration for her.
BAM.
Earl Jolly Brown
05-12-2002, 03:46
Originally posted by Ono
Best Asian Movie Star
Jeon Ji-Hyun:notworthy :notworthy
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Why?
:norty:
Yes, why? :p I've gone off her a little - reminds me rather too much of an ex-girlfriend... :norty: Similar 'sassy' behaviour too.
I like Maggie Cheung - and Fay from 'Chungking Express', met the spitting image of her last night :thumbs:
tj_director
05-12-2002, 07:36
i love Jackie Chan too big time, but going to add an indian flavour to this 'asian' list :p gonna say Shah Rukh Khan, he's got charisma and makes even his crap films watchable.. and he's made a few of those!
Originally posted by Earl Jolly Brown
I've gone off her a little -
No, no. That's fair enough. She is not suited to everyone.
Just me. :)
India is in Asia, right?
In that case you can't beat Madhuri Dixit in Dil to Pagal Hai
Beauty beyond compare!
Erm, Kei Mizutani does it for me. :notworthy
I watched 'Weather Woman' once and was never the same again...
playaslaya
05-12-2002, 13:03
HK: Jackie Chan
India: Aishwarya Rai (I dont have to explain why!)
Originally posted by Koku
Kei Mizutani
WIll have to research her when I get home.
/I assume she's not work PC friendly. :norty:
KeyserSoze
05-12-2002, 13:16
Tony Leung
one of the only few who can act :D
There's a serious ommission here, so I'm going to have to correct it -
Toshiro Mifune
Full Tense
05-12-2002, 14:02
Maggie Cheung is my fave.. she has great talent and is still incredibly beautiful.
lol Jeon Ji-Hyun in My Sassy Girl reminds me of someone I painfully miss.
/I assume she's not work PC friendly.
Ono, she has her own site at (rather unsurprisingly) keimizutani.com Not all that work friendly, no... :shocker:
I think Weather Woman was perhaps the most obtuse fusion of satire, comedy and gratuitous flesh I've had the privilege to see. Particularly without English subs but even with my nascent Japanese I got the gist of what was going on.
To be serious for a moment, I still think, to concur with Noel M, that Toshiro Mifune is my all time fave. Shame that he and Kurosawa had that falling out on Red Beard as, for me at least, his career was never the same again :(
CBSKYWALKER
05-12-2002, 15:23
I cant name a best one but these are all excellent
Bruce lee
jackie chan
Takeshi Kintano
chow yun fat
zhang ziyi
michelle yeoh
jet li
stephen chow
takeshi kitano
and a masterful auteur too
:smokin:
Takeshi Kitano gets my vote. Only seen two of his movies(Battle Royale and Sonatine) but they were enough to show me what he has.
Can't wait to see Violent Cop for some more 'Beat' Takeshi.
Same opinion as Noel M - it has to be Toshiro Mifune. He only wouldn't get my vote if dead guys don't count, in which case it would be Jackie Chan. Drunken Master - what a movie!
DVDWotcha
05-12-2002, 17:55
Originally posted by tj_director
i love Jackie Chan too big time, but going to add an indian flavour to this 'asian' list :p gonna say Shah Rukh Khan, he's got charisma and makes even his crap films watchable.. and he's made a few of those!
Possibly, but by all accounts Amitabh Bachchan is the all time King of Bollywood. The man is a legend.
My nomination goes to Nadia Nyce, for her seminal contribution to her art. :norty: Sadly now retired.... :(
Cirrus888
05-12-2002, 18:11
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Need I say why? :norty:
Shingster
05-12-2002, 18:13
Blimey, no-one's mentioned Sammo Hung yet :(
Tony leung Chiu Wai is another fave of mine, even when the film he's in is crap, he'll always be watchable, as will the likes of Anthony Wong, Francis Ng, Ng Man Tat, Lau Ching Wan etc
Thene there's the likes of Toshiro Mifune, Stephen Chow, Takeshi Kitano & of course Chow Yun Fat. How can i choose just one! :smokin:
BTW Jackiw Chan didn't single handedly create the comedy-martial arts genre at all, that's Hollywood PR companies talking.
Oh yeah & his combined martial Arts & Acrobatic ability are no match for Yuen Biao's, but i do agree that JC is a legend & one of the greatest stars of the big screen, but let's not give him all the credit! :D
Kin. Good choice of picture my friend! :notworthy :thumbs:
Duane Dibbley
05-12-2002, 19:50
Jackie Chan gets his fair share of stick these days, but I'd have to give him my vote as well. There may be more proficient martial artists, acrobats, directors and actors out there, but as a total package they don't come much better than Jackie. :thumbs:
Some other favourites of mine: Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao, Jet Li, Michelle Yeoh, Maggie Cheung and Anita Mui. :)
bazkeane82
05-12-2002, 20:05
Originally posted by splobber
Why? :nuts:
My favourite one has to be that chinese bloke who seemed to be in every action film in the 1980's. Nobody knows his name coz he's too hard.
moving to the dvd & movie forum
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bolo yeung rock hard chest :D
SeeWolfe
05-12-2002, 22:21
splobber, is this the guy you were thinking of?
http://www.fametracker.com/hey_its_that_guy/leong_al.shtml
Step forward, Mr Al Leong
Originally posted by Noel M
There's a serious ommission here, so I'm going to have to correct it -
Toshiro Mifune
Agreed, he gets my vote too.
Abhisara
06-12-2002, 03:09
I'm going for Shah Rukh Khan and Jackie Chan too.
I quite like Aamir Khan, but I've only seen two of his films (Lagaan and Dil Chahta Hai - both superb :thumbs: ).
Lucio's Beard
06-12-2002, 08:32
Got to go with the ever wonderful Chow Yun Fat.
Been a fan for many years, but opnly recently had a chance to see more of his less action orientated films...and the guy just has something. He's alot more versitile than people give him credit for.
I also rate Andy Lau highly, another very enjoyable actor to watch..and a fine singer as well.
Sammo of course, not a fan of some of his comedic films, but when he's good..he's brilliant. And his skills are simply wonderful to watch.
And of course, despite the recent years in th wilderness..his legacy is legend.
Jackie Chan..for all the obvious reasons. Never a fan of some of his broadly comic early work, but this guy has made some true classics and is a truly remarkable man.
Moon Lee, sweet as a very sweet thing with a super sweet coating on it. Lot's of fun to watch, delivers the entertainment groceries.
Maggie Cheung. An actress who not only looks amazing, but has broken away from the 'HK Babes' group to become internationally respected. She's made some damn fine films as well.
Michelle Yeoh for being a truly gifted actress and martial artist, a strong role model and for giving us some classic action films. As with Chow Yun Fat..her work in "Crouching Tiger.." was breathtaking on every level.
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Madhuri
playaslaya
06-12-2002, 10:40
Originally posted by Abhisara
I'm going for Shah Rukh Khan and Jackie Chan too.
I quite like Aamir Khan, but I've only seen two of his films (Lagaan and Dil Chahta Hai - both superb :thumbs: ).
Yup Lagaan is a superb film, and Amir Khan was very good in it. He has a world weary charm that many young Bollywood stars don't, however saying that Hrithik Roshan is also very cool, he gets my pick to play Solid Snake if they ever do a MGS film!
Aishwarya Rai
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Michelle Yeoh was amazing in "WING CHUN"
Idle Child
06-12-2002, 15:13
mine's easily Jackie Chan. :clap: Why? watch his kung fu caper movies and you'll understand!
Steven Chow
Chinese Odyssey I and II are the best !!!
Munas you are leaching that picture from another site and not your own website. :nono:
Jimmyboy
07-12-2002, 16:58
Originally posted by tiger33
Bruce Lee?
International Asian superstar born in San Francisco. Son of Hong Kong comic actor Lee Hoi Cheun who had such faith in his son's success that he named him Lee Jun Fan which means 'Gaining fame overseas'. A child actor turned martial arts action hero after catching the eye of then 20th Century Fox producer Bill Dozier at a Karate tournament. This earned Bruce the role of Kato in The Green Hornet which was later cancelled after one series. Hollywood recognised Bruce's talents but just like today had very little idea what to do with him. Bruce decided to head back to Hong Kong to start his film career with the intention of working his way back up to being a Hollywood and International superstar. Many Hong Kong studios were interested but it was Liu Liang Hwa, wife of HK director Lo Wei who managed to sign an exclusive deal with Bruce Lee.
Along with massive Charisma and martial art talent, Bruce showed his broad knowledge of directing skills (by then Hong Kong standards) during the fight scenes of his debut Hong Kong movie 'The Big Boss'. The film was an instant success and turned Lee into a Hong Kong Superstar over night. Lo Wei and Bruce Lee got together again to shoot what is regarded by many as Lee's best movie 'Fist of Fury'. Fury was an even bigger success and once again Bruce Lee brought with him a unique Western style of action direction which impressed Hong Kong audience's. Proving to be a sure fire hit, Lee and Wei were supposed to work together again on a 3rd movie but ego's got in the way which led to Lee starting up his own Branch off company with Raymond Chow from Golden Harvest studios.
Shooting in Italy (unheard of for a Hong Kong movie of that time) 'Way of the Dragon' clearly had the International market in mind and it that respect it was another success. Hollywood now started to realise just how big an asset Bruce Lee was so a joint partnership was formed between Golden Harvest and Warner Brother studios to produce the first ever East & West martial arts movie.
'Enter the Dragon' put Lee in the role of a Chinese American James Bond figure who's mission is to investigate the activities taking place an off shore island and more importantly Mr Han who just happens to be hosting an International martial arts tournament. While 'Enter the Dragon' was a disappointment in Hong Kong the film was an unrivalled success in the US and the rest of the world (which was the purpose of the movie). Bruce Lee had proved that Chinese actors could become major International superstars in a film industry that usually rejects minorities.
Prior to shooting 'Enter the Dragon' Bruce worked on arguably his most ambitious work yet, Game of Death. Bruce would tragically pass away before completing the movie.
With an unrivalled screen presence (even today), bags of charisma, and martial arts techniques which nearly always remained genuine and realistic throughout all his movies as well as adding some pioneering directional skills to action movies, it's easy to see why Bruce Lee is by far the best and most important Asian movie star and probably always will be.
I'll have to go for Leslie Cheung, because he seems to be in just about all of my favourite asian movies. Got to mention Brigitte Lin too... :thumbs:
Firstly Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco therefore he doenst qualify as FULL ASIAN.
even if you where to ask him he would tell u he was American
Secondly i agree that he was very important in spreading the word of Martial Arts but this doesnt mean that hes important to Asian. Asian movies are more than just Kung Fu Flicks
Jimmyboy
07-12-2002, 18:28
[QUOTE]Originally posted by tiger33
Firstly Bruce Lee was born in San Francisco therefore he doenst qualify as FULL ASIAN.
:confused:
even if you where to ask him he would tell u he was American
An American citizen yes, but that doesnt change his race or mean he rejected his Chinese culture.
Secondly i agree that he was very important in spreading the word of Martial Arts but this doesnt mean that hes important to Asian. Asian movies are more than just Kung Fu Flicks
He's vital to the Asian film industry, even to this day.
Bruce achieved unrivalled status as a martial arts actor but his achievements off screen were arguably more important & while there's more to Asian movies than just Kung Fu, no other actor from any other genre has been able to bridge the cultural gap or become anywhere near as iconic as Bruce Lee. It's an unfair point anyway because Bruce wasnt able to prove himself outside of the martial arts genre due to his short life.
Lucio's Beard
07-12-2002, 21:11
Oh dear..a bit of hassle for Bruce! Disgraceful.
I agree with JimmyBoy...You cannot dismiss such an iconic figure. Even today, so long sfter his death, he is still (maybe Jackie has just taken over now though I admit) probably the most famous figure in HK films to the general public.
And his films broke all box office records in HK (Chan's early breakthrough films were the only ones to challenge that) and helped the industry a lot in a time of decline.
It was past the Shaw Brothers height, but the newer crop of, say, 'Golden Harvest' stars had of course not yet come along...Bruce was a crucial financial stepping stone across that artistic slump.
And the sheer following he had abroad gave HK films the energy to slip into the 80's and the start of the next golden age (that still continues) of HK movies, and gave the HK industry more overseas clout than it had ever had.
Shingster
07-12-2002, 21:48
No other actor from any other genre has been able to bridge the cultural gap or become anywhere near as iconic as Bruce Lee.
I'd have to disagree strongly with that, I believe that Jackie Chan for many years had achieved the same level of fame that Bruce had throughout most of the world, except the US, but now he's broken the states big time he's now a big a cultural icon as BL ever was. Mind you Bruce did all this in 4 films (only one to the states really), how many did JC do before he finally broke the states? :D
I believe Bruce has had an indirect impact on just about every genre of HK cinema, ask Stephen Chow who is childhood hero was, who made him want to become a star & he'll undoubtedly say Bruce Lee. It's seems just about every major HK star since the 70's will name Bruce lee as a major inspiration & source of encouragement for them to get into the film industry, now that's influence! :D :rocker:
Jimmyboy
08-12-2002, 03:02
Originally posted by Shingster
I'd have to disagree strongly with that, I believe that Jackie Chan for many years had achieved the same level of fame that Bruce had throughout most of the world
Same level of fame maybe, but same level of credibility amongst the mainstream ?, same level of influence amongst other actors and people's lifestyle's ?, same level of iconic status ?, same level of success in terms of knocking down racial barriers ?. and then there's always the question of whether or not Jackie would have even considered the US market (or more importantly, if the US market would consider him) if it wasn't for Bruce before hand proving that it could be done as well as being a huge motivational force.
There's no denying Jackie is an amazing talent, but It's difficult to see why the American film industry would have been interested in the star of 'Drunken Master' had it not been for Bruce Lee putting martial art movies on the global map in the first place.
Wow. Strong points here.
I dont dislike Bruce Lee at all. I really do respect the guy but i just free that too much credit is point on him from a martial arts point of view thats all
As a fighter he is great and also a "good" actor
:-)
maggie cheung. got star quality.
Shingster
09-12-2002, 01:21
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
Same level of fame maybe, but same level of credibility amongst the mainstream ?,
Definitely, in fact i'd say JC is more mainstream now than Bruce ever was.
same level of influence amongst other actors and people's lifestyle's?, same level of iconic status?
Tough call on these, the younger generation of Asian stars seem to have been just as if not more influenced by the likes of JC than Bruce, but Bruce has influenced an extra generation of stars than JC so i'd also give the nod to the great one, but it's close i tell ya!
As for the iconic status, well bit unfair on JC, he never died before/during his prime. Who can compete with an untimely death?
Same level of success in terms of knocking down racial barriers ?
Bruce was there first so again not really fair to compare the 2 but let's not forget that JC is/was the first Asian star to headline multiple Hollywood films & he does prove once & for all that Asian stars can have a successful career in the west.
And then there's always the question of whether or not Jackie would have even considered the US market (or more importantly, if the US market would consider him) if it wasn't for Bruce before hand proving that it could be done as well as being a huge motivational force.
There's no denying Jackie is an amazing talent, but It's difficult to see why the American film industry would have been interested in the star of 'Drunken Master' had it not been for Bruce Lee putting martial art movies on the global map in the first place.
Well, it seems that the US had bugger all interest in the star of Drunken Master after all, considering that his first attempts to crack the US market died a horrible death. Terrible films I know but it took what, 13 years before he had a true US theatrical hit in the states? I think it's fair to say that the 13yrs of fan buzz & respectable VHS sales/rentals played the main part in the final breakthrough. JC had a backlog of truly great films behind him when he broke the US market, i think it's safe to say that it was this backlog & huge Asian fan base that led to his US success, I think the fact that Bruce lee had a big US hit in the 70's played very little role in it at all.
There was no Asian star before Bruce Lee to make it big in the US, but to say that the reason future Asian stars made it in America because of this one man is a huge insult to the talents of those that followed Bruce Lee imo, yes he broke down barriers, yes he gave HK action cinema the big push when it really needed it, but let's face it stars like Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, John Woo, Chow Yun Fat, Jet Li are all talented enough to make it in the US on their own merits.
I know you don;t think BL is the only reason for the success of future stars Jim, but I've lost count of the typical US blurb documentaries that talk like this & also talk like Jackie Chan as if he's the only successful martial arts star after Bruce lee that I needed to get that last paragraph of me chest! :D
I do agree that Bruce lee was the right man in the right place at the right time for asian cinema & anyone compiling a list of greatest HK stars has to be thinking about Bruce lee right from the start, but I do feel that we have seen asian stars that have had a bloody good stab at rivalling Bruce's legacy & i hope to see more to come! :rocker:
Jimmyboy
09-12-2002, 02:24
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Shingster
Bruce was there first so again not really fair to compare the 2 but let's not forget that JC is/was the first Asian star to headline multiple Hollywood films & he does prove once & for all that Asian stars can have a successful career in the west.
Im not sure I'd agree it's on the same level or terms as Bruce Lee though.
Jackie himself has been dogged by claims of 'selling out' by much of his hardcore fan base (something which Bruce Lee was never accused of), not for starring in multiple Hollywood films, but for continuing to play the Chinese 'arsole' fish-out-of-water racial stereotype in nearly all of his major blockbusters.
Bruce Lee made 1 (Yes 1!) Hollywood co-production which he managed to get pretty much complete control over in the action scene's, something Jackie wouldn't enjoy until Rush Hour and even then he had to play 2nd best to gob mouth Tucker (who, let's be honest was a vital contribution to the films success & Chans mainstream appeal in the US). Bruce didn't have a 'major' Hollywood partner to bounce off, he had to become sellable to the racially selective US audience (much more so than today) without any kind of cushion & he did it in one movie, unlike Chan who took 48000. :D
Of course, you know me well enough to know that Im not bashing Chan, his achievements are no doubt an influence to many already. Rather if I had to pick the most important and ground braking taking into account the very different enviroments which they both had/have to work in, I'd favour Bruce Lee every time. Not just as the best action star, but the best Asian star.
when he broke the US market, i think it's safe to say that it was this backlog & huge Asian fan base that led to his US success, I think the fact that Bruce lee had a big US hit in the 70's played very little role in it at all.
From a PR perspective Im afraid it does (just like your comments a bit further down state).
I've lost count of how many times I've seen a Jackie Chan write up which says things like "Jackie Chan, action superstar, who was passed down the crown from Bruce Lee".
In fact even Warner Brothers release of Enter the Dragon DVD contains a section along those lines.
There was no Asian star before Bruce Lee to make it big in the US, but to say that the reason future Asian stars made it in America because of this one man is a huge insult to the talents of those that followed Bruce Lee imo, yes he broke down barriers, yes he gave HK action cinema the big push when it really needed it, but let's face it stars like Sammo Hung, Jackie Chan, John Woo, Chow Yun Fat, Jet Li are all talented enough to make it in the US on their own merits.
Obviously not though considering the only major players out of those names in Hollywood are Jackie Chan and John Woo.
This is more a reflection on Hollywood itself than the talents of the stars but it shows that Bruce Lee had something which people could identify with regardless of nationality & racial background that the others arguably don't, at least not to the same extent.
It also shows that even to this day Hollywood hasn't learnt that its best to give Asian talent a nice long leash. Surprising really considering Enter the Dragon & The Rush Hour flicks are probably the 3 most successful movies that star Asian talent & these are all films where the talent were allowed to smash up the set.
I do agree that Bruce lee was the right man in the right place at the right time for asian cinema & anyone compiling a list of greatest HK stars has to be thinking about Bruce lee right from the start, but I do feel that we have seen asian stars that have had a bloody good stab at rivalling Bruce's legacy & i hope to see more to come! :rocker:
Yeah like Eric Tsang for example. :D
the 'Big B' himself...Mr Amitabh Bachchan.
although i havent seen all his movies....(seen ALOT as a kid but cant remember most!)....i know the kinds of films hes appeared in and the range of characters hes played!
personally i like his 'Angry Young Man' roles! :thumbs:
Christ on a bike... you must have needed an archeological dig to find this topic! :nuts:
Though, to answer the original question, without a doubt Zhang Ziyi. The things I'd like to do to that girl... :n0rty:
new forms
20-03-2005, 09:26
had to choose favourites, some of them include,
Lau Chin Wang, Takeshi Kitano, Eric Tsang and Ruby Wong
My favourites are:
Chow Yun Fat
Tony Leung
Andy Lau
Bruce Lee
Moving to World Cinema & DVD Forum
A|ways loved Sammo Hung and Chow Yun-Fat, but my faves have to be:-
Song Kang-ho - He IS the Foul King, and for his performances in Memories of Murder (insanely good), Sympathy for Mr Vengeance and JSA (again, wonderful)....
Lam Ching-ying - I like him in Mr Vampire, but it's his performance in Prodigal Son (poss. my fave martial arts film) that wins it. Just marvellous....
As for the ladeez, I still like Bae Du-na (primarily for Take Care of My Cat and Barking Dogs Never Bite)....
Steve
playaslaya
20-03-2005, 16:06
Shah Rukh Khan
Tony Leung
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