The Summer Transfers (and Rumours) Thread [Archive]

24-04-2003, 01:23

Here's some new(ish) ones from nufc.com

APR 01 Ricardo Quaresma FWD Sporting Lisbon Portuguese media Unconfirmed
APR 02 Gareth Southgate DEF Middlesbrough Daily Express Unconfirmed
APR 03 Wayne Bridge DEF Southampton Sun Unconfirmed
APR 06 John Terry DEF Chelsea News of the World Unconfirmed
APR 06 Stephen Carr DEF Spurs News of the World Unconfirmed
APR 17 Lee Bowyer MID West Ham Daily Star Unconfirmed :p again..
APR 19 Michael Bridges FWD Leeds Chronicle Unconfirmed
APR 20 Andriy Husin MID Dynamo Kiev Sunday Sun Unconfirmed

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 01:36

Originally posted by Dave Metcalf

APR 01 Ricardo Quaresma FWD Sporting Lisbon Portuguese media Unconfirmed
Not a chance seen as United have linked up with Sporting. :p

24-04-2003, 01:59

Newcastle United? :wave: :p

cheeseypuffs

24-04-2003, 02:09

West Ham United? :confused:

Rohail

24-04-2003, 03:20

Man United have been linked with Boavista Gk and Portgual's No.1 Ricardo!

Meaning they could have 2 Gk's called Ricardo :wave:

njwd

24-04-2003, 08:53

Simao Sabrosa from Benfica was another rumour for Newcastle

and of course the old chesnuts of:

Van Buyten from Marseille
Emerton from Feyenoord
Kleberson from Atletico Paranaense

Kronik

24-04-2003, 10:19

From the Daily Star this morning...

Arsenal are keeping close tabs on Scott Chipperfield (Austrailian) of Basle. :|

Surely some sort of sick joke?:nuts:

Muddy Mudskipper

24-04-2003, 17:08

Batigol to Charlton.

Daily Star. :|

Muddy Mudskipper

24-04-2003, 20:04

Here's the top 25 transfer rumours according to footballtransfers.info

Name Pos. From Club To Club Fee
1. David Beckham (Eng) RM Manchester United Real Madrid £40m
2. Ronaldinho (Bra) AM Paris-SG Juventus, Manchester United £17.14m
3. Rafael van der Vaart (Hol) MF Ajax Amsterdam AC Milan £?
4. Rivaldo (Bra) FW AC Milan Middlesbrough Free
5. Ryan Giggs (Wal) LW Manchester United Inter Milan £1.5m
6. Robert Pires (Fra) WG Arsenal Valencia £?
7. Harry Kewell (Aus) LM Leeds United Manchester United £6m
8. Frank De Boer (Hol) CD Barcelona Blackburn Rovers Bosman
9. Laurent Robert (Fra) LW Newcastle United Manchester United £?
10. Geremi (Cam) RB Real Madrid Manchester United £9m
11. Ronaldo (Bra) ST Real Madrid Manchester United Swap
12. Patrick Kluivert (Hol) ST Barcelona Juventus £?
13. Savio (Bra) FW Real Madrid Liverpool Bosman
14. Jaap Stam (Hol) CD Lazio Juventus Swap
15. Giovane Elber (Bra) ST Bayern Munchen Atletico Madrid £?
16. Damien Duff (Ire) LW Blackburn Rovers Manchester United £15m
17. Mark Viduka (Aus) ST Leeds United Tottenham Hotspur £5m
18. Recber Rustu (Tur) GK Fenerbahce Arsenal, Manchester United Bosman
19. Claude Makelele (Fra) CM Real Madrid Manchester United £10m
20. Deco (Bra) AM FC Porto Juventus £17m
21. Simao Sabrosa (Por) WG Benfica Newcastle United £?
22. Alberto Luque (Spa) ST Deportivo la Coruna Manchester United £?
23. William Gallas (Fra) CD Chelsea Arsenal £7.5m
24. Frederic Kanoute (Fra) ST West Ham United Liverpool £8m
25. Stephen Carr (Ire) RWB Tottenham Hotspur Manchester United, Newcastle United £10m

Rivaldo - Boro :nuts:

evilsly

24-04-2003, 20:06

1.5 million for giggs ?

I think the decimal is in the wrong place

horseflesh

24-04-2003, 20:08

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
Here's the top 25 transfer rumours according to footballtransfers.info

Name Pos. From Club To Club Fee
1. David Beckham (Eng) RM Manchester United Real Madrid £40m
2. Ronaldinho (Bra) AM Paris-SG Juventus, Manchester United £17.14m
3. Rafael van der Vaart (Hol) MF Ajax Amsterdam AC Milan £?
4. Rivaldo (Bra) FW AC Milan Middlesbrough Free
5. Ryan Giggs (Wal) LW Manchester United Inter Milan £1.5m
6. Robert Pires (Fra) WG Arsenal Valencia £?
7. Harry Kewell (Aus) LM Leeds United Manchester United £6m
8. Frank De Boer (Hol) CD Barcelona Blackburn Rovers Bosman
9. Laurent Robert (Fra) LW Newcastle United Manchester United £?
10. Geremi (Cam) RB Real Madrid Manchester United £9m
11. Ronaldo (Bra) ST Real Madrid Manchester United Swap
12. Patrick Kluivert (Hol) ST Barcelona Juventus £?
13. Savio (Bra) FW Real Madrid Liverpool Bosman
14. Jaap Stam (Hol) CD Lazio Juventus Swap
15. Giovane Elber (Bra) ST Bayern Munchen Atletico Madrid £?
16. Damien Duff (Ire) LW Blackburn Rovers Manchester United £15m
17. Mark Viduka (Aus) ST Leeds United Tottenham Hotspur £5m
18. Recber Rustu (Tur) GK Fenerbahce Arsenal, Manchester United Bosman
19. Claude Makelele (Fra) CM Real Madrid Manchester United £10m
20. Deco (Bra) AM FC Porto Juventus £17m
21. Simao Sabrosa (Por) WG Benfica Newcastle United £?
22. Alberto Luque (Spa) ST Deportivo la Coruna Manchester United £?
23. William Gallas (Fra) CD Chelsea Arsenal £7.5m
24. Frederic Kanoute (Fra) ST West Ham United Liverpool £8m
25. Stephen Carr (Ire) RWB Tottenham Hotspur Manchester United, Newcastle United £10m

Are United going to buy a whole new team??
Two I've heard that are almost certainties:
Finnan to Liverpool
Duff to United

Rivaldo - Boro :nuts:

evilsly

24-04-2003, 20:11

I don't know why the rivaldo to boro story is so unbelievable

they can certainly pay his wages (look at boksic)
they do pay out silly money to 30+ yr olds
Juninho is already there
and surely for someone of rivaldos ego it would be good to be a big fish in a small pond

Davester

24-04-2003, 20:15

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Not a chance seen as United have linked up with Sporting. :p Why would he want to join a club that haven;t won a trophy for 2 years :confused:

they can't tell him where to go, he decideds:p

Muddy Mudskipper

24-04-2003, 20:18

Originally posted by evilsly
1.5 million for giggs ?

I think the decimal is in the wrong place

That's what I was thinking.

evilsly

24-04-2003, 20:18

and the last time newcastle won anything was .........

(using your logic to decide between Newcastle and Manchester Uniteds)

Davester

24-04-2003, 20:19

Originally posted by evilsly
and the last time newcastle won anything was .........

(using your logic to decide between Newcastle and Manchester Uniteds) really should read what people write :D

2 years is a long time. Villa won things more recently than Newc but i am sure he would prefer to join them (if you see my point).

Anyhow, my main point was that just because you have a link with his club does not mean he will sign. he may visit manchester before joining ;)

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 20:27

Originally posted by Davester
Why would he want to join a club that haven;t won a trophy for 2 years :confused:
Why did Aaritalo join Villa when lots of good teams wanted him? :p

Mandrill

24-04-2003, 20:35

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Why did Aaritalo join Villa when lots of good teams wanted him? :p

He wanted to play alongside Mark Kinsella
:|

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 20:38

Originally posted by Mandrill
He wanted to play alongside Mark Kinsella
:|
Kinsella is a perfectly good player as he proved in his time at Charlton and for Ireland. :p

Mandrill

24-04-2003, 20:48

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Kinsella is a perfectly good player as he proved in his time at Charlton and for Ireland. :p

No Kinsella WAS a perfectly good player he wasnt good enough for Charlton anymore and he has added nothing to Villa since he joined IMO.

Davester

24-04-2003, 21:25

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Why did Aaritalo join Villa when lots of good teams wanted him? :p First team football. And the youth team has won some stuff :p

Kinsella is the worst player I have seen in a villa shirt for a long time. I am ashamed he has ever worn our famous colours.

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 21:33

Originally posted by Davester
First team football. And the youth team has won some stuff :p

You mean the cup United have virtually won this season. :p

Davester

24-04-2003, 21:51

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
You mean the cup United have virtually won this season. :p check your under 17 and under 19 league tables me lado :p

24-04-2003, 21:54

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
You mean the cup United have virtually won this season. :p

Leeds United? :confused:

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 21:55

Originally posted by Dave Metcalf
Leeds United? :confused:
Who? :wave:

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 21:56

Originally posted by Davester
check your under 17 and under 19 league tables me lado :p
The U17, U19 and reserve leagues mean absolutley nothing! :p

Davester

24-04-2003, 21:57

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
The U17, U19 and reserve leagues mean absolutley nothing! :p and cups do!!??:p

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 21:59

Originally posted by Davester
and cups do!!??:p
Nope.

Mandrill

24-04-2003, 22:00

"Villa's kids have now lifted the prestigious Baden-Württemberg Cup with a 2-1 win against German outfit Borrusia Munchengladbach.

:clap: :clap:

Davester

24-04-2003, 22:25

Originally posted by Mandrill
"Villa's kids have now lifted the prestigious Baden-Württemberg Cup with a 2-1 win against German outfit Borrusia Munchengladbach.

:clap: :clap: :notworthy

Pisces Iscariot

24-04-2003, 22:33

Can't say I've ever heard of it. Obvioulsy I've heard of Baden-Württemberg just not the cup. Who else was in it?

Mandrill

24-04-2003, 22:46

FC Valencia
Sports club Freiburg
Olympia Laupheim
Hertha BSC Berlin -
FV Olympia Laupheim
Borussia Dortmund -
Olympique Lyon

Muddy Mudskipper

25-04-2003, 08:01

Latest Man United rumour - Kluivert

Probably quite likely as he won't be playing European football with Barcelona next season. :lol:

Gudjohnsen is the back-up if that falls through apparently.

Davester

25-04-2003, 09:10

haven't chelsea said a number of times he is staying.

Davester

25-04-2003, 09:14

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/2974755.stm

evilsly

25-04-2003, 10:58

interesting speculation about Manchester uniteds summer dealings here
http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,1563,943156,00.html

all very plausible and not pleasant reading for Leeds fans

:p

Nujol

25-04-2003, 11:20

Nedved and Robinson wouldn't surprise me for ManU. Nedved was superb for Juve in the week although would he want to leave if they win the scudetto and the champs league?

EDIT: Although surely after seeing Ferdinand's "quality", Fergie has got to be suspicious about buying anyone from Leeds - in their team he looked amazing class but with bigger fish around him he looks like the weakest link in the defence. How good would Robinson look against Champs League opposition?

Davester

25-04-2003, 11:20

Why is it plausible when the board have told fergie he isn't getting any money?

Nujol

25-04-2003, 11:24

Originally posted by Davester
Why is it plausible when the board have told fergie he isn't getting any money?

Because David Beckham WILL be sold to Real Madrid for £35m.

evilsly

25-04-2003, 11:28

Originally posted by Nujol

EDIT: Although surely after seeing Ferdinand's "quality", Fergie has got to be suspicious about buying anyone from Leeds - in their team he looked amazing class but with bigger fish around him he looks like the weakest link in the defence. How good would Robinson look against Champs League opposition?

Remember though, Ferguson had tried to buy Ferdinand when he was on Loan to Bournemouth (iirc) and he was certainly very strongly linked to a £5million move in 1997. I doubt ferguson's decision to go for Ferdinand is based on anything Ferdinand did in a Leeds shirt. Ferdinands value was probably based as much on his World Cup performances where he was pretty outstanding.

If another Leeds player goes to manchester united though, I don't think the leeds fans will like it ;)

Davester

25-04-2003, 11:29

Originally posted by Nujol
Because David Beckham WILL be sold to Real Madrid for £35m. I agree ther eis a good chance, but how do you KNOW for sure.

Welshlad

25-04-2003, 11:29

Originally posted by Nujol
EDIT: Although surely after seeing Ferdinand's "quality", Fergie has got to be suspicious about buying anyone from Leeds - in their team he looked amazing class but with bigger fish around him he looks like the weakest link in the defence. How good would Robinson look against Champs League opposition?

Ferdinand, at Leeds, was amazing in Europe against top quality opposition. Liekwise, Robbo played in the Champions league and was also phenominal (read back the Leeds-Barce match report if you want), so not sure where your coming from there! :confused:

Davester

25-04-2003, 11:30

but Ferdie has been gash for manu!

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 11:31

Originally posted by Davester
Why is it plausible when the board have told fergie he isn't getting any money?
That's rubbish though and it's the same thing that's reported every year. Nike will finance one big transfer (they'll most likely want Ronaldinho at OT) and selling Beckham will raise the money to bring in 2 or 3 other players.

Bleeders

25-04-2003, 11:33

He hasn't had the most consistent of seasons, but saying that Stam, Bruce and Pallister took a season or two to get settled and look how they all turned out.

Welshlad

25-04-2003, 11:34

Originally posted by evilsly
If another Leeds player goes to manchester united though, I don't think the leeds fans will like it ;)

I think you'll find Leeds fans cant believe their luck now, having sold Rio for such a stupid amount of money. Talk to any Leeds fan about that transfer now, and see if they can keep a straight face.

If your gonna pay us like last time, your welcome to Robbo! :p

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 11:38

As a Utd fan I can see the need for change and some youthful inspiration in midfield but I am very worried at the prospect of Becks leaving. How can the board afford that considering his marketing value? I know he gets a considrable proportion of that himself but it is very dangerous to underestimate that particualrly in such a climate where value is falling and players individuality becomming more important to fans.

Keane and Giggs I could accept on the otherhand. Keane has been our talisman and we owe him dearly but he has lost form badly and now would be a good time to get some decent cash from Celtic, Boro or similar. Giggs blows hot and cold and whilst someone commented that becks has not won a game for us all season I would say that is more true of Giggs and really has been since 2000. Good but not good enough.

Butt, Solskjaer and Scholes could also bring in some cash but are useful utility players who could handle missing games because of some new precocious talent or to allow intermittent run outs for someone of Nedved's standing.

Ferdinand has not had a good season but will prove his worth (or at least some of it) and we have a youthful defense accumulating lots of big time experience like the italians did in the 80s.

Lastly van the Man needs a quality partner and I would be surprised if we do not add to our striker tally. However, I did say last saeason that Fergy would not and woukld employ Giggs and Scholes as partners and think he may well do that again only if forced to do so by spending what is / what becomes available on midlfield.

Whatever happens we will survive and continue to grow. Look at the departure of Cantona and Robson. We were all scared then and what happened - we went on to greater things.

My biggest worry is that we do a Fiorentina and buy big only to be let down massively. Real have just about got away with it but had a dodgy time for a bit.

Remember it is the sqaud ultimately that wins trophies and whatever happens that needs to be strenghtened up front and in the centre of the park.

My advice to the board (should they be listening ;) ) is keep Becks, sell Keane and Giggs and bring in some tried and tested British players such as Duff.

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 11:42

Sky (http://msn.skysports.com/skysports/article/0,,3360-1088153,00.html)

Beckham

"As I've always said - 'Never say never'," he said. "You always want to play with the best team and the best players.

"Undoubtedly, Manchester United have a great team and great players. In the last eight, nine years we've won most things in England and the European Cup.

"Real Madrid have got a massive history about them and they've got world-class players."

:help:

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 11:43

Originally posted by Bleeders
He hasn't had the most consistent of seasons, but saying that Stam, Bruce and Pallister took a season or two to get settled and look how they all turned out.
Stam didn't take a season or two to do anything! He looked shaky in the charity shield but he improved in every game after that and by the end of the season he was looking phenomenal.

Kronik

25-04-2003, 11:51

Daily Star this morning....

Beckham out for £30Mill

Which will fund the transfers for Robinson, Kewell & Defoe.

Bleeders

25-04-2003, 11:51

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Stam didn't take a season or two to do anything! He looked shaky in the charity shield but he improved in every game after that and by the end of the season he was looking phenomenal.

Fair point. Although IMO the Dolly and Daisy partnership took a season or two before they really came together.

Beckham

"As I've always said - 'Never say never'," he said. "You always want to play with the best team and the best players.

"Undoubtedly, Manchester United have a great team and great players. In the last eight, nine years we've won most things in England and the European Cup.

"Real Madrid have got a massive history about them and they've got world-class players."

He's as good as gone IMO.

As a United supporter, I can't say that I'm fussed about losing Beckham. If we're offered a silly amount of money for him. Take it I say. He's a great player, but he isn't irreplaceable.

Nedved is a name being bandied around at the moment. A suitable replacement for Beckham do you think?

evilsly

25-04-2003, 11:53

Nedved is a world class midfielder playing in Serie A

a bit like Veron was ...........

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 11:56

Originally posted by Bleeders
Nedved is a name being bandied around at the moment. A suitable replacement for Beckham do you think?

Yes and to be honest he probably offers more than Becks in terms of traking people on and goals from active play but he is too old in my opinion.

Originally posted by evilsly
Nedved is a world class midfielder playing in Serie A

a bit like Veron was ...........

Exactly - my worry too but I always thought Veron was over-rated since having him my 1998 WC fantasy team when he was tiped as the new Maradona :brickwall

Do you think Lazio would do us a swap? Don't forget they still love him over there ;)

Equally old but I wonder how much davids would cost. I always thought he would fit into Utd well and may well put that Keane/Robson/Moses oomph back into midfield.

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 11:59

The bastion of quality journalism known as The Mirror (;)) reckons that Beckham is a good as gone and he will be followed out the door by Giggs and Barthez. Fergie’s shopping list is apparently –

Rommedahl
Ronaldinho
Duff
Robinson
Defoe
Ricardo Quaresma

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 12:02

Rommedahl - :thumbs:

Ronaldinho - the nest Veron :brickwall

Duff - quality :notworthy

Robinson - :rolleyes: possibly but likes his pies far too much

Defoe - :thumbs: wonderful future

Ricardo Quaresma - pick of the bunch as far as I have heard

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 12:02

Originally posted by Bleeders

Nedved is a name being bandied around at the moment. A suitable replacement for Beckham do you think?

Jesus are you taking the **** :|

Im baised on a few fronts but i think Nedved,who is bit of a diffrent player, is a much better player then Beckham:thumbs:

As an Arsenal fan i'd crap my pants if you lot got Nedved :help:

He plays like Scholes has done in the last month for most of the season.

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 12:04

Originally posted by unrealnils
He plays like Scholes has done in the last month for most of the season.

I would say he is better in taking people on but worse at passing but don't you think he has that tendency to blow hot and cold?

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 12:15

I've been watching Italin football since channel 4 started (im actually a bigger fan of it then Premiership)

And i would say his crossing is better and he does play consistently as well.

He hasn't done as well in the CL though

I think that Juventus as a whole haven't really done the CL thing for a few years now but domestically he has been very good.

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 12:27

Originally posted by unrealnils
I've been watching Italin football since channel 4 started (im actually a bigger fan of it then Premiership)

Yes I've gathered that from your previous posts.

I have no doubt that Nedved is world class but which two would you have from Beckham, Nedved and Veron? The latter two I assume?

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 12:38

Good question ...............

Both Nedved and Veron go forward so unless i had a rock defence i think i'd raher have a Vierra or Keane style player with a Nedved or Veron.

One of the reasons Neved is able to go forward and do the stuff he does becuase he knows he has the great wall of China behind him (Edgar Davids ;) )

Depends on other players in the team but i would rather have Beckham and Nedved in most cases.

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 12:41

Originally posted by unrealnils
Depends on other players in the team but i would rather have Beckham and Nedved in most cases.

I like that combination but the idea of having Juve's central two is appealing :)

Davester

25-04-2003, 12:45

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
That's rubbish though and it's the same thing that's reported every year. Nike will finance one big transfer (they'll most likely want Ronaldinho at OT) and selling Beckham will raise the money to bring in 2 or 3 other players. when did you become CEO of Nike? Isn';t that just pure speculation.

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 12:53

I read somewhere that Fergie is intrested in Canizarres (sp?) Velancia's gaolie.

Specualtion of course

horseflesh

25-04-2003, 12:55

Someone tell Ferguson to keep his hands off Dawson.
He can sell Beckham though, he'd be mad not to at the prices that are being quoted. (not that it'll be his decision)

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 12:56

I heard Inter have bought some greek midfielder Karagounis

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 13:01

Originally posted by Davester
when did you become CEO of Nike? Isn';t that just pure speculation.

No it's not speculation; I am the CEO of Nike. :p

It's not speculation that United's sponsorship with Nike sees them get a sizable sum at the start of every season and it's not speculation that Nike will want the players they sponsor in a team they sponsor as it's good for business hence they would try and pave the way for a deal. Whether Fergie wants Ronaldinho is another matter.

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 13:07

Looks like Wenger is after a Striker and Goalie :clap:

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=143620&plid=&clid=&cpid=&title=Arsenal+set+to+sign+striker

As long as Jeffers leaves us :thumbs:

Davester

25-04-2003, 13:10

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
No it's not speculation; I am the CEO of Nike. :p

It's not speculation that United's sponsorship with Nike sees them get a sizable sum at the start of every season and it's not speculation that Nike will want the players they sponsor in a team they sponsor as it's good for business hence they would try and pave the way for a deal. Whether Fergie wants Ronaldinho is another matter. Thank you. Doubt Fergie would be told who to buy. Also he might prefer to go elsewhere

Nujol

25-04-2003, 14:33

Originally posted by Welshlad
Ferdinand, at Leeds, was amazing in Europe against top quality opposition. Liekwise, Robbo played in the Champions league and was also phenominal (read back the Leeds-Barce match report if you want), so not sure where your coming from there! :confused:

Ferdinand has been rubbish for ManU. My point being that when he was a big fish at a smaller club he looked good, but now he is with the big-boys he doesn't look nearly so hot a prospect. £30m?!

Robinson has made some brilliant saves this season, but he has also let in some poor ones too. He is not blameless for their position in the table. Give us any of the Premiership goalkeepers and we'll all be able to find a couple of games where they played brilliantly, but a few good performances don't make him the complete goalie. ManU would be buying potential, NOT a world class keeper.

Nujol

25-04-2003, 14:38

Originally posted by unrealnils
Looks like Wenger is after a Striker and Goalie :clap:

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=143620&plid=&clid=&cpid=&title=Arsenal+set+to+sign+striker

As long as Jeffers leaves us :thumbs:

I've never heard of them so it wouldn't surprise me if we signed them! Most of Wenger's buys are unknowns, in fact we sign about 6 or 7 players during the season. Maybe one or two make it into the team, the rest move on after a season or two. Recent examples are Edu (2 years ago) and Toure (last year). :)

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 14:59

I guess Wenger has to have that sort of approach if he's to get good players with little money :suspect:

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 15:03

Originally posted by unrealnils
I guess Wenger has to have that sort of approach if he's to get good players with little money :suspect:

Not hurt him so far though - very impressive deals overall

Welshlad

25-04-2003, 15:21

Originally posted by Nujol
Ferdinand has been rubbish for ManU. My point being that when he was a big fish at a smaller club he looked good, but now he is with the big-boys he doesn't look nearly so hot a prospect. £30m?!
Like he didn't look a hot prospect in the big-boys world cup you mean?

Robinson has made some brilliant saves this season, but he has also let in some poor ones too. He is not blameless for their position in the table.
Thats such a nothing statement! Name a keeper that hasn't? Of course he has let in 'some poor ones' - every keeper does, but what makes a good keeper great is their all round ability and the ratio of good/bad games. Robbo has every attribute - his kicking is fantastic (a better passer than Beckham? ;) ),his shot-stopping is incredible and his reactions are awesome. He is excellent at crosses and possibly the only areas I would say he lacks is experience: something that will come, and he is learning fast.
Of course he is not blameless, nobody said he was, but there are those players who as a Leeds fan you know are responsible for the positives this season - Robbo is one of them. Without him, we'd have been relegated by now, and that is no joke. In fact, I'd say the only positive thing to come out of TV's appointment was the emergence of Robbo.

Give us any of the Premiership goalkeepers and we'll all be able to find a couple of games where they played brilliantly, but a few good performances don't make him the complete goalie.
When did I say "a few good performances"? Robbo has been an ever present this season, and has been outstanding in EVERY SINGLE GAME. Some more than others, obviously, but not once this season has he cost us points with a big gaffe. As I said in another thread, he has been so consistent for LUFC this season, I firmly belive he should be at least shortlisted for POTY.

ManU would be buying potential, NOT a world class keeper.
I never said he was world class...he's done nothing to earn the right to be called World Class, but everything I have seen of him thus far in his short career suggests he may well become so in the not too distant future.

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 15:28

Originally posted by Welshlad

Thats such a nothing statement! Name a keeper that hasn't? Of course he has let in 'some poor ones' - every keeper does..
I totally agree with that. Toldo has been the most impressive keeper I've seen this season but even he's made a couple of howlers. The Great Dane is arguably one of the all time great keepers and even he made mistakes in the peak of his career.

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 15:33

Toldo is very impressive but I would be happy with Robinson if, as I have said, he stays off the pies :lol:

Welshlad

25-04-2003, 15:42

Originally posted by lorenzo
Toldo is very impressive but I would be happy with Robinson if, as I have said, he stays off the pies :lol:
Yeah, his weight fluctuation was a criticism levelled at him a couple of years ago by the coaching staff at ER (and later even DOL himself I think), but in all fairness he seems to have that under control now too...althought from some angles he still does look a right fat git doesn't he? :D

Way_2_FAT

25-04-2003, 15:45

Originally posted by unrealnils
Looks like Wenger is after a Striker and Goalie :clap:

http://www.planetfootball.com/article.asp?id=143620&plid=&clid=&cpid=&title=Arsenal+set+to+sign+striker

As long as Jeffers leaves us :thumbs:

Michal Papadopulos?!?! :eek:

Never seen him play in real life but in CM 01/02 he ended up as a world class player :lol:

lorenzo

25-04-2003, 15:54

Originally posted by Way_2_FAT
Michal Papadopulos?!?! :eek:

Makes a mean Doner :lol:

Kronik

25-04-2003, 17:18

Its good to see Wenger aiming for Strikers, but come on a defender is needed, maybe even 2 defenders in Keown retires.

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 17:32

He's picked up one already though/ or trying............that young norwegian :)

Kronik

25-04-2003, 17:38

Which young Norwegian?

Or are you talking about that Sendoros that has already signed?

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 17:44

Yep

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 18:53

Originally posted by unrealnils
Yep
Do you consider Sol Campbell to be Portuguese? :lol:

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 18:57

EU players, same thing same thing :D

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 18:59

Originally posted by unrealnils
EU players, same thing same thing :D
Do you consider yourself to be French? :lol:

Nujol

25-04-2003, 21:49

Like he didn't look a hot prospect in the big-boys world cup you mean?

Not particularly IMHO - IIRC, excepting perhaps Brazil, England didn't play any teams of the quality found in the Champion's League or even at the top of the Premiership.

Thats such a nothing statement! Name a keeper that hasn't? Of course he has let in 'some poor ones' - every keeper does, but what makes a good keeper great is their all round ability and the ratio of good/bad games. Robbo has every attribute - his kicking is fantastic (a better passer than Beckham? ;) ),his shot-stopping is incredible and his reactions are awesome. He is excellent at crosses and possibly the only areas I would say he lacks is experience: something that will come, and he is learning fast.
Of course he is not blameless, nobody said he was, but there are those players who as a Leeds fan you know are responsible for the positives this season - Robbo is one of them. Without him, we'd have been relegated by now, and that is no joke. In fact, I'd say the only positive thing to come out of TV's appointment was the emergence of Robbo.

I totally agree with you.

When did I say "a few good performances"?

Well you picked one out in particular. Vs. Barcelona.

Robbo has been an ever present this season, and has been outstanding in EVERY SINGLE GAME. Some more than others, obviously, but not once this season has he cost us points with a big gaffe. As I said in another thread, he has been so consistent for LUFC this season, I firmly belive he should be at least shortlisted for POTY.

Clearly as a gooner I haven't seen all 90+ minutes of every single Leeds game - do you go to all home and away games btw? - and I apologise that I can't pick a certain game but I do recall a couple of games on Sky when Leeds were doing poorly that he failed to make fairly simple saves. I can't quote an example so unfortunately can't back that one up.

I never said he was world class...he's done nothing to earn the right to be called World Class, but everything I have seen of him thus far in his short career suggests he may well become so in the not too distant future.

That's what I was saying, I agree - he's on the way, let's hope for the sake of England that he gets there. It would be a shame to see him either go down the Woodgate/Smith route (thuggery) or the Ferdinand route (poor performances amongst the big boys).

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 22:01

Originally posted by lorenzo
Makes a mean Doner :lol:

His teammate were trynna get has the chilli sauce ;)

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 22:06

Milan close in on Kaka (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr25e.html)

Looks like AC are tying to sign a new young Brazillian attacker
:thumbs:

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 22:08

Kack is cack! :p

Way_2_FAT

25-04-2003, 22:35

A possible replacement for Shevchenko? :norty: :luv:

unrealnils

25-04-2003, 22:37

BOOOOOOOOOO :lol:

Way_2_FAT

25-04-2003, 22:39

RVN and Shevchenko upfront :nuts: :thumbs:

Nujol

25-04-2003, 22:52

ManU fans... if you had the choice of...

* Beckham, Giggs and Keane leaving

or

* Van Nistelrooy leaving

- what would you prefer?

Pisces Iscariot

25-04-2003, 22:59

The former.

evilsly

25-04-2003, 23:04

Beckham, Keane and Giggs going would make 55-60 million

you could bring in Duff, Nedved + others with that amount of money

Nujol

25-04-2003, 23:07

What would you do if Van Nistelrooy was injured for a long period (and I could say the same for us with Henry to some extent) - very reliant on one player. ManU and maybe Arsenal both need a striker IMO.

Way_2_FAT

25-04-2003, 23:28

Agree, I think Arsenal will get PK from Barca this summer, just hope United get AS.

lorenzo

26-04-2003, 09:17

Originally posted by Way_2_FAT
A possible replacement for Shevchenko? :norty: :luv:

:clap:

lorenzo

26-04-2003, 09:18

Originally posted by Nujol
ManU fans... if you had the choice of...

* Beckham, Giggs and Keane leaving

or

* Van Nistelrooy leaving

- what would you prefer?

:help:

RVN is such an important part of the team currently but I would be less hasty to let all the others go than Pisces

Davester

26-04-2003, 09:27

Nujol, what about argentina.

Nujol

26-04-2003, 17:27

Originally posted by Davester
Nujol, what about argentina.

EDIT: Ah, do you mean the world cup? Argentina weren't that great, no where near the quality of Brazil, deffo do not count.

johnson293

29-04-2003, 07:57

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2003191171,00.html
BOBBY ROBSON wants to steal Christophe Dugarry from Birmingham City.

The French star has impressed Newcastle boss Robson since his arrival on loan from Bordeaux.

It is understood Newcastle have already made discreet contact with Bordeaux to discover the full details of Dugarry's contract situation.

And Robson is poised to hijack him from the Blues, who hope to persuade Dugarry to join them permanently in the summer.

Dugarry has admitted several Premiership clubs have expressed an interest in signing him - and Newcastle have the added incentive of European football next season.

Robson has also carried out a personal check on Benfica's Portuguese international Simao Sabrosa.

And he has agreed a £3.5million fee for Brazilian ace Kleberson of Atletico Paranaense.

MJ:thumbs:

bruce-leroy

29-04-2003, 11:12

Originally posted by lorenzo

My biggest worry is that we do a Fiorentina and buy big only to be let down massively. Real have just about got away with it but had a dodgy time for a bit.

Veron, Ferdinand

:p

lorenzo

29-04-2003, 11:15

Originally posted by bruce-leroy
Veron, Ferdinand

:p

:help:

Muddy Mudskipper

29-04-2003, 11:23

Looks like Batigol will be in the Premiership next season:

Batistuta: "My agent is trying to find a deal so I can finish my career in England. My aim is for an ambitious London club."

Bleeders

29-04-2003, 11:30

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
Looks like Batigol will be in the Premiership next season:

Bet he'll end up at Spurs. ;)

lorenzo

29-04-2003, 11:32

That'll be Chelsea or Fulham then or maybe Spurs if they rob a bank ;)

Cheeky buggers these foreigners thinking they can cash in at the end of their careers and have an easy time over here :(

I hope we are not becomming the stepping stone to the US or Japanese retirement football :p

I know not all have that approach but it is increasing. Having said that we have seen some great performances and season deciding efforts from Christoph Dugarry and Yuri Djorfoff of late :clap:

Mandrill

29-04-2003, 11:46

Originally posted by johnson293
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2003191171,00.html

MJ:thumbs:

:lol: :lol:

johnson293

29-04-2003, 11:58

Originally posted by Mandrill
:lol: :lol:
Hey I thought the same thing when I saw it, but could be good Experience for the young 'uns in the squad to learn from, and another experienced head for our Champions League campaign, though not necessarily first choice league material....especially if we can get him cheap/free.

Also, Kleberson has been touted as a tacking midfielder, but I'd rather have a known quantity than an unknown.....and we still need a decent quality partner for Woody!

MJ:thumbs:

Muddy Mudskipper

29-04-2003, 12:12

Originally posted by lorenzo
That'll be Chelsea or Fulham then or maybe Spurs if they rob a bank ;)

Cheeky buggers these foreigners thinking they can cash in at the end of their careers and have an easy time over here :(

He actually wants to play for Man Utd. :wave:

He's on a Bosman, so Spurs could afford him. :D I reckon it'll be either Charlton or Fulham if he definitely comes here though.

mjb1975

29-04-2003, 12:33

Originally posted by Bleeders
Bet he'll end up at Spurs. ;)

nah, we'll only nearly sign him but then get some 'promising' third division striker....

:rolleyes: ;)

lorenzo

29-04-2003, 12:35

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
He actually wants to play for Man Utd. :wave:

I'd heard that years back (well maybe only 2-3) but no geriatrics at OT thank you ;)

Wouldn't put it past Fergie to sign him though aka Blanc instead of a younger striker. Who knows maybe he will help bring the CL back to where it belongs ;)

Kronik

29-04-2003, 12:40

If Dugarry went to Newcastle where would he play?

Would Robson be willing to drop Shearer or Bellamy?

johnson293

29-04-2003, 12:54

Originally posted by Kronik
If Dugarry went to Newcastle where would he play?

Would Robson be willing to drop Shearer or Bellamy?
Perhaps Sir Bob is resigned to the fact that Craig Bellamy is/and will always be a little gob-******, and is preparing for future suspensions!:help:

Also, as immense as he has been this season, I think the last few weeks have proved that Shearer hasn't got 40-50 games a season in him anymore, and we may see the great man rested a bit more next season.:(

MJ

Mandrill

30-04-2003, 09:45

Originally posted by johnson293
Hey I thought the same thing when I saw it, but could be good Experience for the young 'uns in the squad to learn from, and another experienced head for our Champions League campaign, though not necessarily first choice league material....especially if we can get him cheap/free.

MJ:thumbs:

I was :lol: because it would be :lol: if you stole him from Brum.:D

evilsly

30-04-2003, 12:09

The Bellion to Man Utd story has re-appeared

are there any sunderland supporters on here who have an opinion on Bellion, as I've never seen him play.

Kronik

30-04-2003, 12:34

Ive seen him play once or twice.

He's very quick, he's young and has alot of potential. Sunderland's best player, but usually gets left out of the squad.

johnson293

30-04-2003, 12:34

Originally posted by evilsly
The Bellion to Man Utd story has re-appeared

are there any sunderland supporters on here who have an opinion on Bellion, as I've never seen him play.
All the Sudnerland fans have dissappeared under their rocks again....till they are back in the big league!!!

So you won't see them for a while!!!:lol:

MJ:D

madstu

30-04-2003, 17:35

Sunderland cant score at all, and are going to be the worst ever premiership team - i doubt their reserve striker is going to any good.

meant to be like Henry without the skill, ability and shootin - basically he is French and quick.

Tristan H

30-04-2003, 18:36

Read a story today about Kanoute coming to Arsenal.

Please no......:oh-hum:

Alan. b

30-04-2003, 18:52

Apparently and according to Sky Sports News Charlton have turned down the chance to sign Gabriel Batistuta.

madstu

30-04-2003, 18:57

Originally posted by Tristan H
Read a story today about Kanoute coming to Arsenal.

Please no......:oh-hum:

Kanoute is soooooo much better than that cheat Jeffers (who has got to be the most hated player in the league - except savage).

Arsenal are meant to have hardly any money - i read that Kanu and Bergkamp are both out of contract in the summer - so they will need a new striker (not that Kanu will be missed) and Kanoute will be cheap if West HAm get relagated - i think he would do well.

+ he's French-Arsene wouldn't but English surely.

madstu

30-04-2003, 19:00

Originally posted by Alan. b
Apparently and according to Sky Sports News Charlton have turned down the chance to sign Gabriel Batistuta.

just imagine what he's asking for in wages - probably more than the entire Charlton squad.

it would have been great if Batigol played in England a few years back - but he's well past it now.

evilsly

30-04-2003, 19:00

Kanoute is class, but injury prone

I remember United and Liverpool both being linked with 10million pound moves a season or so ago for him.

unrealnils

30-04-2003, 19:06

Looks like Lopez is gonna be leaving Lazio in the summer.

Lazio will need to sell some players and looks like Lopez might just go back to spain ........

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/apr30f.html

madstu

30-04-2003, 19:10

Leeds have brought in the adminstrators today - however they are not in adminstration (big diff). but Dellotte and Touche said they won't turn down any sensible offers for any players.

Looks like Kewell, Viduka, Robinson and Smith will all be off somewhere.

Alan. b

30-04-2003, 19:20

Originally posted by madstu
just imagine what he's asking for in wages - probably more than the entire Charlton squad.

it would have been great if Batigol played in England a few years back - but he's well past it now.

Agreed. Apparently he is looking at coming to England to finish his career and wants a London club.

Nujol

01-05-2003, 19:53

Originally posted by madstu
Kanoute is soooooo much better than that cheat Jeffers (who has got to be the most hated player in the league - except savage).

That is totally ridiculous. Yes, he made a mistake - he dived ONCE. Somehow making him the most hated player in the league?! I think you'll find that the vast majority of true football supporters couldn't give a toss about Jeffers either way. In fact anyone with an eye to the future will look at his brilliant U21 record and his debut goal for the senior team too. But there you go.

Nujol

01-05-2003, 19:54

Gerbil Cisse to Liverpool surfacing again today, and apparantly Makalele is the "long term successor" to Roy Keane - although AFAIK he is only about 2 years younger than Keane, go figure.

madstu

01-05-2003, 20:30

Originally posted by Nujol
Yes, he made a mistake - he dived ONCE. Somehow making him the most hated player in the league?!

the guy dives every time he plays - can't remember against who, but he felt a touch on his heel playing for the Arse and dived like a professional, thing was he was touched by his own player!:lol:

was it Peter Osgood who said he wished Jeffers would get injured in his next game?

my housemate who is a completly neutral fan actually dispises Jeffers - yes the guy is hated.

madstu

01-05-2003, 20:33

Originally posted by Nujol
Gerbil Cisse

is this the French striker at auxerre - (spelt really badly):suspect:

or is this someone else?:rolleyes:

Davester

01-05-2003, 21:36

Madst - correct IIRC

Maky is 30

css_uk

01-05-2003, 21:38

Originally posted by madstu
is this the French striker at auxerre - (spelt really badly):suspect:

or is this someone else?:rolleyes: i think he is talking about the Auxerre player

KiLeAk

02-05-2003, 23:11

Djibril Cisse..please god, I hope Liverpool get nowhere near him!! :)

Kronik

03-05-2003, 09:33

Lampard to Man Utd. :nuts:

madstu

03-05-2003, 10:29

yeah heard that one - i would of thought the lastthing United needed was a central midfielder though.

tezmo

03-05-2003, 18:52

Originally posted by Nujol
Gerbil Cisse to Liverpool surfacing again today, and apparantly Makalele is the "long term successor" to Roy Keane - although AFAIK he is only about 2 years younger than Keane, go figure.

this make me larf too - I remember rufus brevett (34?) being signed as the "long term winterburn replacement" at west ham :rolleyes:

madstu

03-05-2003, 19:06

Originally posted by tezmo
this make me larf too - I remember rufus brevett (34?) being signed as the "long term winterburn replacement" at west ham :rolleyes:

yeah but wasn't Winterburn the replacement for Stuart Pearce at West Ham?:nuts: :nuts:

Nujol

03-05-2003, 22:32

Originally posted by madstu
my housemate who is a completly neutral fan actually dispises Jeffers - yes the guy is hated.

And of course, your "housemate" represents the views of 60 millions Britons.

---

On a thread-relevent note, my theory on Pires going is backed up here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/2988499.stm - Pires basically saying he's not sure if he'll add time to his contract.

He's 30 now so it's a big decision - if he stay with us any longer, that will be it, he'll finish his career with us. If he wants a move e.g. to Spain, this is his last chance.

madstu

03-05-2003, 22:55

Originally posted by Nujol
And of course, your "housemate" represents the views of 60 millions Britons.

60m people don't watch football do they.

and i didn't say everyone hates him, IMO more people hate him than any other player in the league. you may be able to see that if you didn't have your head up your own "Arse"
:nono: :nono:

name a player who is more hated? and come up with something more origional than Roy Keane (or any other Man Utd player), at least he doesn't cheat at every opportunity. :wave:

Muddy Mudskipper

03-05-2003, 22:59

madstu

03-05-2003, 23:04

Originally posted by madstu
Kanoute is soooooo much better than that cheat Jeffers (who has got to be the most hated player in the league - except savage).

i did say except Savage - mind you he makes me laugh - esp when he took a dump in the ref's toilet:thumbs:

Pisces Iscariot

03-05-2003, 23:05

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
Robbie Savage?
Well I'm a fan and IIRC so's HBK757 and there were some other people who kinda liked him. :p

Muddy Mudskipper

03-05-2003, 23:25

I never said I hated him, I just get the impression that a lot of people do.

Pisces Iscariot

03-05-2003, 23:31

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
I never said I hated him, I just get the impression that a lot of people do.
Most of those people would love him if they had him doing such an effective job every week for their club! :D

evilsly

04-05-2003, 13:30

Seems like Kluivert is now the most likely striking partner for Ruud, and very interesting comments from Ruud himself on this possibility

"I have heard Patrick is coming to Manchester United - and I will be waiting there to welcome him to Old Trafford with open arms."

"He is the greatest attacking talent in Europe. So far we've only played 18 internationals together but when we play together and train together every day, we will become even better.''

hmmm, if Kluivert and Ruud developed into an on pitch 'partnership' of Cole and Yorke (99) proportions that would be an awesome sight to see

Welshlad

04-05-2003, 14:24

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Most of those people would love him if they had him doing such an effective job every week for their club! :D

Absolutely...IMO the most important player in the Welsh setup these days...

Pisces Iscariot

04-05-2003, 14:26

Originally posted by Welshlad
Absolutely...IMO the most important player in the Welsh setup these days...
Then again most people who like him would knock him out if they were playing against him! :lol:

Welshlad

04-05-2003, 16:02

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Then again most people who like him would knock him out if they were playing against him! :lol:
But as they say, no-one hates a bad player.... Francis Jeffers aside that is! ;)

unrealnils

04-05-2003, 22:14

Dalla Bona joins AC Milan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/2116652.stm) from Chelsea..............

Yo Pisces is this guy any good ??
:|

unrealnils

04-05-2003, 22:16

Yo pisces read this page (http://www.football-rumours.com/acmilan.html) under Feb 26 2003 you heard about that ...................

madstu

04-05-2003, 22:21

Originally posted by unrealnils
Dalla Bona joins AC Milan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/2116652.stm) from Chelsea..............

Yo Pisces is this guy any good ??
:|

bit out of date mate:nono:

unrealnils

04-05-2003, 22:23

My mistake

Pisces Iscariot

05-05-2003, 00:26

Originally posted by unrealnils
Yo pisces read this page (http://www.football-rumours.com/acmilan.html) under Feb 26 2003 you heard about that ...................
Yeah but I think it was the Milan fans that caused all the trouble. ;)

Oh you meant the Giggs story! :D Yup I've heard that story before and would be delighted if it happened despite the recent form of Giggs. Giggs is replaceable but Sheva is certainly a one-off!

unrealnils

05-05-2003, 10:11

Rivaldo to come to the UK (http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/may4i.html) ????:suspect:

Nujol

05-05-2003, 13:56

Originally posted by madstu
60m people don't watch football do they.

and i didn't say everyone hates him, IMO more people hate him than any other player in the league. you may be able to see that if you didn't have your head up your own "Arse"
:nono: :nono:

name a player who is more hated? and come up with something more origional than Roy Keane (or any other Man Utd player), at least he doesn't cheat at every opportunity. :wave:

1) Sorry but I don't respond to the kind of insults found on a primary school playground, how particularly sad not to be able to explain your feelings without resulting to those sort of remarks.

2) Why should I name a player?! You have no proof whatsoever that Jeffers is the "most hated player", you even say that is it in your own opinion (IMO). And your argument about Roy Keane, "at least he doesn't dive" isn't a particularly good reason, and I would expect in my opinion that the countless professional fouling and intentional injury-causing would be a greater crime than ONE dive, but there you go!

---

On topic:

Pires will leave Arsenal, I'm sure of it. He looked totally disgruntled yesterday.

Davester

05-05-2003, 14:06

Originally posted by evilsly
Seems like Kluivert is now the most likely striking partner for Ruud, and very interesting comments from Ruud himself on this possibility

hmmm, if Kluivert and Ruud developed into an on pitch 'partnership' of Cole and Yorke (99) proportions that would be an awesome sight to see is this due to happen on teh 24th of June?

Pisces Iscariot

05-05-2003, 14:10

Originally posted by Davester
is this due to happen on teh 24th of June?
Or the 5th of July? ;)

madstu

05-05-2003, 14:12

Originally posted by Nujol
1) Sorry but I don't respond to the kind of insults found on a primary school playground, how particularly sad not to be able to explain your feelings without resulting to those sort of remarks.

2) Why should I name a player?! You have no proof whatsoever that Jeffers is the "most hated player", you even say that is it in your own opinion (IMO). And your argument about Roy Keane, "at least he doesn't dive" isn't a particularly good reason, and I would expect in my opinion that the countless professional fouling and intentional injury-causing would be a greater crime than ONE dive, but there you go! :

---
i'm implying that if you looked at it from as unbiased perspective you would be able to see that Jeffers is hated - its not just my opinion - its the opinion of most people i know (except a gooner, who thinks Cygan is good also:lol:)

and why don't you name another footballer who is more hated?
:confused:

you don't have proof that Jeffers is not the most hated player in the league?

re you going to ask all those 60m people?:lol:

i asked you not to name a Utd player - because that's pointless as a gunner you probably hate all Utd players just because they play at old trafford.

Davester

05-05-2003, 14:54

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Or the 5th of July? ;) I thought he'd try a different date this year after the roaring sucess with the 5th last year (ok, i oculdn't remember teh date, but it was a funny thread :D)

evilsly

05-05-2003, 16:13

Manchester United's financial year starts on the 1st July (iirc) so it's very unlikely they will make any transfers in of any significance before then

Pisces Iscariot

05-05-2003, 16:17

Originally posted by evilsly
Manchester United's financial year starts on the 1st July (iirc) so it's very unlikely they will make any transfers in of any significance before then
They might agree the deals before then but nothing will go through until after that so we can expect a couple of months of speculation were United will sign half the world. :lol:

Muddy Mudskipper

06-05-2003, 08:45

Apparently it's Vieira that Real Madrid want, and if he doesn't go there Man Utd will take him. ;)

Pires to Valencia for £7million

Liverpool and Newcastle both linked to Fabrice Fernandez.

njwd

06-05-2003, 09:50

More Newcastle speculation:

Mido from Ajax (Currently on loan to Celta Vigo, due to bust up with Koeman)

Kronik

06-05-2003, 11:06

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper

Pires to Valencia for £7million

Would mind seeing that happen, he's not getting any younger and his ego has started growing recently. Arsenal need some fresh players...

unrealnils

06-05-2003, 11:08

I'd hope for a bit more though .............

Kronik

06-05-2003, 11:08

Newcastle are being linked with every striker under the sun! It was Beattie that was going to them the other day.

Kronik

06-05-2003, 11:09

Originally posted by unrealnils
I'd hope for a bit more though .............

At 30 Years old, its gonna be hard to get any more for him.

Mandrill

06-05-2003, 16:05

Angel to Chesea in swap deal for Eidur Gudjonsson

Don't belive a word of it myself :suspect: :suspect:

t@xman

06-05-2003, 16:48

Originally posted by Davester
Villa have just signed a 15 year old from Belgium. Can't remember his name but apparently he is promising to stay even if we get relegated!.

:nuts: :D

Muddy Mudskipper

07-05-2003, 13:46

Liverpool linked with Joe Cole.

I'd much prefer Duff or Kewell personally.

lorenzo

07-05-2003, 13:51

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
I'd much prefer Duff or Kewell personally.

You can have which ever one we don't :clap:

Pisces Iscariot

07-05-2003, 13:53

Originally posted by lorenzo
You can have which ever one we don't :clap:
:lol:

Muddy Mudskipper

07-05-2003, 17:20

:|

You've neglected to consider the lure of UEFA cup football to those two players. :wave:

evilsly

07-05-2003, 17:23

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
:|

You've neglected to consider the lure of UEFA cup football to those two players. :wave:

or the joys of long ball football
:p

Francis

07-05-2003, 18:21

Man Utd linked to (well the player says it's confirmed) Markus Neumayr, 17 year old German midfielder currently at Eintracht.
http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Story_Page/0,7760,616436,00.html
Don't know a thing about him myself if I'm honest :confused:

Nujol

07-05-2003, 19:43

Originally posted by madstu
:

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i'm implying that if you looked at it from as unbiased perspective you would be able to see that Jeffers is hated - its not just my opinion - its the opinion of most people i know (except a gooner, who thinks Cygan is good also:lol:)

and why don't you name another footballer who is more hated?
:confused:

you don't have proof that Jeffers is not the most hated player in the league?

re you going to ask all those 60m people?:lol:

i asked you not to name a Utd player - because that's pointless as a gunner you probably hate all Utd players just because they play at old trafford.

? I don't give a damn about any ManU players, in fact I have a great respect for them all, they are excellent footballers although of course there are some that I think are better than others. If you are sad enough to just brand all the players of a certain team as "hated" just because they are rivals to your team, that's your problem. I would like to think I have a slightly more adult view of fooball.

I'm interested that you have now completely changed your argument - previously it was your "housemate" that said that Jeffers was the supposed "most hated player", and yet now you've clearly done a little survey for yourself (or just made it up) that "most people" say Jeffers is the "most hated player".

Kindly go somewhere else for your petty and completely pointless discussions - in fact I've created you a thread here (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189354) so you don't need to spoil the Transfers/Rumours thread :)

Fat Bloke

08-05-2003, 09:44

Liverpool linked with Finnan again, details on BBC Online.

mjb1975

08-05-2003, 10:06

not surprisingly, Spurs are linked to Bobby Zamora again today, but rather worringly, also Jason Roberts from WBA! That's a new one on me and I can't say that I've seen a lot of him this season, but that's not the 'awe inspiring' signings I'm expecting this Summer....

It's all on the Evening Standard's website at http://www.thisislondon.co.uk

madstu

08-05-2003, 11:38

Originally posted by Nujol
? I don't give a damn about any ManU players, in fact I have a great respect for them all, they are excellent footballers although of course there are some that I think are better than others. If you are sad enough to just brand all the players of a certain team as "hated" just because they are rivals to your team, that's your problem. I would like to think I have a slightly more adult view of fooball.

I'm interested that you have now completely changed your argument - previously it was your "housemate" that said that Jeffers was the supposed "most hated player", and yet now you've clearly done a little survey for yourself (or just made it up) that "most people" say Jeffers is the "most hated player".

Kindly go somewhere else for your petty and completely pointless discussions - in fact I've created you a thread here (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=189354) so you don't need to spoil the Transfers/Rumours thread :)

oh dear, oh dear - someone's thrown their toys out their pram havent they?:lol:

well i stand corrected - i now know you do not hate all Man Utd players. :D i apoligise :gag: - but that was not the point was it (i just wanted your opinion on who is a more hated player than Jeffers?) - which i still don't think you have given me an answer to yet?

The answer to your "survey" question is yes i have done a little survey- its called having a social life, and talking to your friends, and i have found that most people do in fact hate him.:thumbs:

madstu

08-05-2003, 11:41

Originally posted by mjb1975
not surprisingly, Spurs are linked to Bobby Zamora again today, but rather worringly, also Jason Roberts from WBA! That's a new one on me and I can't say that I've seen a lot of him this season, but that's not the 'awe inspiring' signings I'm expecting this Summer....

It's all on the Evening Standard's website at http://www.thisislondon.co.uk

both ex-Bristol Rovers players (and we would take them back at any time!)

Jason Roberts is really quite good - he was playing in a very poor side last year mind.

I hope spurs pay a lot of money for Bobby, Rovers have a 33% sell on clause and could do with the money.

Kronik

08-05-2003, 11:44

In this mornings Daily Star...

Ronaldinho to Man Utd for £14Mill but PSG want more.

Its going to be interesting to see what happens to Rivaldo in the summer too.

mjb1975

08-05-2003, 11:47

From what I read, I don't think it's gonna be HUGE money for Zamora, esp. as Brighton have gone down - I saw £1.5m bandied around...

I reckon it'll prolly be about £2m ish tops.

Rohail

08-05-2003, 13:15

Originally posted by mjb1975
From what I read, I don't think it's gonna be HUGE money for Zamora, esp. as Brighton have gone down - I saw £1.5m bandied around...

I reckon it'll prolly be about £2m ish tops.

Brighton are looking at £4m for him.

ffc

08-05-2003, 13:19

Inamoto stays at Fulham another year. FWIW.

unrealnils

08-05-2003, 13:22

FWIW ?

mardyChris

08-05-2003, 13:39

for what it's worth (IIRC)

unrealnils

08-05-2003, 14:08

Ah cool (at least i know IIRC ;) )

SloppyJoe

08-05-2003, 15:02

What's IIRC ?:)

Jonnyrepp

08-05-2003, 15:06

if I remember correctly

Dan

08-05-2003, 15:06

Originally posted by SloppyJoe
What's IIRC ?:)

It's If I Recall Correctly, IIRC;)

Kronik

08-05-2003, 15:09

Originally posted by ffc
Inamoto stays at Fulham another year. FWIW.

Would you say thats a good thing? Or a bad thing?

Nujol

08-05-2003, 17:11

Originally posted by madstu
oh dear, oh dear - someone's thrown their toys out their pram havent they?:lol:

Hahahhahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :p :p :p

I can't be bothered continuing what I thought was an interesting, adult discussion with someone who, rather than presenting a reasoned argument, responds to disagreement with babyish insults. A true example of someone who has never made the usual teenage transition from self-centred to objective thinker.

Please, please, please... can you post that stuff somewhere else and save this thread for transfer discussion, ta. :) I did give you the link to the correct thread. :)

Nujol

08-05-2003, 17:14

Inamoto is a funny character isn't he? He showed some good skills at Arsenal, but he did make a few silly errors - I would imagine from inexperience.

Then he looked a class act at the World Cup and I was disappointed we let him go. He went to Fulham and seemed to have a very good pre- and start to the season. But now, as far as I've seen, he's not that involved?

Lemm

08-05-2003, 21:47

The only thing Inamoto is any good at is raising Fulham's shirt sales in Japan.

Maybe I'm being a little harsh, but he's first division quality at best.

lorenzo

09-05-2003, 18:06

Originally posted by Kronik
In this mornings Daily Star...

Ronaldinho to Man Utd for £14Mill but PSG want more.

Have the Daily Star ever predicted one yet though?

Originally posted by Kronik
Its going to be interesting to see what happens to Rivaldo in the summer too.

I heard that he had got a role in some Hollywood blockbuster ? Matrix 3 or something where he has to pretend he has been shot in the face and is in lots of pain :lol:

Bg^7G$dw$£edqvs - now surely that can't be miscontrued as a swear word under the T&Cs ;)

madstu

09-05-2003, 18:16

i think Rivaldo is going to find it hard to find a club because of the astronomic wages he is on.

lorenzo

09-05-2003, 18:23

Originally posted by madstu
i think Rivaldo is going to find it hard to find a club because of the astronomic wages he is on.

Six thousand zog is a lot that's true!

Kronik

09-05-2003, 19:10

Originally posted by madstu
i think Rivaldo is going to find it hard to find a club because of the astronomic wages he is on.

But I thought Rivaldo only wanting over £150,000 was absolute bull$%!&?

Isnt he on 40k - 60k at Milan?

Maybe he wanted a huge signing on fee, which put clubs off.

Nujol

12-05-2003, 22:45

40-60K is still a lot, who would be willing to foot the bill especially if he doesn't perform.

I wouldn't be surprised at either Middlesbrough, Bolton or Spurs for him, but not one of the top 6 clubs.

unrealnils

12-05-2003, 23:04

Ac Milan are looking to buy Jap Stam from Lazio ...............

Intresting, i won't complain :)

Muddy Mudskipper

13-05-2003, 14:05

Philips says he's played his last game for Sunderland.

Spurs and Boro are apparently interested in signing him.

evilsly

13-05-2003, 14:19

spurs have been linked with phillips many times in the past, but wait
surely it will be easier to name strikers NOT linked with spurs

njwd

13-05-2003, 14:53

Fat Freddy Shepherd has said he's in Holland for talks with Brett Emerton to Newcastle for ~£4m.

(on Skysports)

Kronik

13-05-2003, 17:10

If I were Newcastle, I'd want a new Goalkeeper. Given has been poor this season, in my opinion. :)

DarthPearce

14-05-2003, 08:53

I heard today that the deal that would bring Duff to Liverpool could also involve Heskey going the other way - that would really please some Liverpool fans!

AdamBrunt

14-05-2003, 08:59

Originally posted by AndyPearce
I heard today that the deal that would bring Duff to Liverpool could also involve Heskey going the other way - that would really please some Liverpool fans!

Hmmm ... this could be possible - they are also being strongly linked with Cisse (by very 'respectable' news sources) and if this is true then either Heskey or Baros have to be going somewhere.

Muddy Mudskipper

14-05-2003, 09:08

Why would Souness want the Donkey? Surely he knows better.

He's still being linked with Spurs - £5.5 million, oh please Jebus let it be true. :lol:

Muddy Mudskipper

14-05-2003, 09:42

Liverpool want:

Duff
Gerbil Cisse
Finnan

£30 million total cost. :nuts:

We need to recoup £10 milion first though and Houllier is apparently willing to sacrifice Heskey, Smicer :) and the likes of Babbel and Hamann.

mjb1975

14-05-2003, 09:49

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
He's still being linked with Spurs - £5.5 million, oh please Jebus let it be true. :lol:

Well, that's a much better price point and certainly less laughable than the £12m tag quote a few months back! :nuts:

I'm not Heskey's biggest fan, like a lot of Liddypool fans, but if that's one more striking option than we have at the mo for that sort of money, I'm not too angry at such speculation. It's almost got to the point where ANYONE will do! :rolleyes:

Muddy Mudskipper

14-05-2003, 14:59

Spurs have been in talks with Viduka's agent according to Sky Sports News. Now that would be a good signing.

You can have Heskey for free if you want. :|

mjb1975

14-05-2003, 17:01

indeedy it would. that's the best (reasonable) rumour I've heard. It sounds like it might be for a decent price too.

Jonnyrepp

14-05-2003, 17:04

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
Why would Souness want the Donkey? Surely he knows better.

I wouldn't be too sure of Souness's judgement, Muddy. This is the man who signed Paul Stewart, Julian Dicks and that African bloke who said he was George Weah's cousin (I think) but was crap. He came on as a sub and was subbed, I believe.

Davester

15-05-2003, 18:36

Beattie to N'castle

Nujol

20-05-2003, 19:40

Wiltord has rejected his first new Arsenal contract... wonder if he will stay? Been an integral part of the team, played more games than anyone else in the last 2 seasons.

tezmo

20-05-2003, 19:42

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
We need to recoup £10 milion first though and Houllier is apparently willing to sacrifice Heskey, Smicer :) and the likes of Babbel and Hamann.

Id be *very* surprised if Hamman was allowed to leave...

Muddy Mudskipper

20-05-2003, 19:48

Why? Houllier doesn't care who he sells, he's proven that in the past.

unrealnils

20-05-2003, 19:48

Originally posted by Jonnyrepp
He came on as a sub and was subbed, I believe.

LOL thats not good news for any player

Muddy Mudskipper

22-05-2003, 08:16

Batistuta to Chelsea, Ranieri has expressed interest in the news today.

David Dunn has turned down a contract extension at Blackburn.

Mr Dubby

22-05-2003, 08:27

also Macho (Sunderland) to Chelsea was reported

Mr Dubby

22-05-2003, 12:56

Fulham have reportedly made £11m record signing Steve Marlet available for transfer at a cut-price 1m euros - £770,000.
The France international has failed to justify his enormous price tag since arriving at the club from Lyon in 2001, scoring just 10 goals in 54 league appearances for the Cottagers.

Fulham are desperately trying to cut costs after recently revealing a £33.3m operating loss, and reportedly want to get the reputed £30,000 a week that Marlet earns per week off their wage bill.

The club have reportedly circulated his name amongst some of France's top clubs, with former side Lyon thought to be keen to end his Premiership nightmare.

Fulham refused to pay the final £3m installment on the £11.5m deal agreed for Marlet, claiming they were unhappy about the role his agents played in securing the deal. The club are appealing against a possible transfer embargo after Fifa told them to pay the remainder of the fee.

Should Marlet move back to France in a cut-price deal, it looks likely to represent the biggest transfer loss in British football history.

johnson293

22-05-2003, 13:55

Fergie in for Tourette's Goalie?

Manchester United have agreed a deal for a goalkeeper who has fought an extraordinary battle with Tourette's syndrome, according to reports.

American net-minder Tim Howard has reached the peak of the game in the MLS as first-choice gloveman for the New York MetroStars and Sir Alex is keen to sign him for £1.2million, reveals the Daily Mirror.

Howard has battled bravely against the unsettling neurological disorder, which causes nervous tics and apparently random verbal outbursts, often of obscene language. He has recently won a humanitarian award for his work as a role model in helping others battle the affliction.

After watching the 23-year-old in action on video (playing in goal), Sir Alex Ferguson was so impressed that he sent his goalkeeping coach Paul Barron to Houston to scout the recent United States-Mexico friendly. Howard played a blinder, keeping a clean sheet and making five stunning saves - and Barron persuaded Fergie to pursue the player.

The Mirror reports that United initially made contact with MetroStars general manager Nick Sakiewicz in March and Howard said at the time of United's interest:

"You dream about things like this. They are the biggest sports team in world history."

The recent red-hot form of both Brad Friedel and Kasey Keller means that the 6'2" goalie has yet to play for his country, but United are confident that Howard's recent marriage to a Hungarian might ease work permit issues.

MJ :nuts:

Mr Dubby

22-05-2003, 14:00

Originally posted by johnson293
[B]The recent red-hot form of both Brad Friedel and Kasey Keller .

That's where any credence to that report goes out of the window

:oh-hum: Keller - top form? :nono:

Jonnyrepp

22-05-2003, 14:02

He'll be in good company with the likes of Keane.

Muddy Mudskipper

22-05-2003, 15:56

Originally posted by Mr Dubby
Fulham have reportedly made £11m record signing Steve Marlet available for transfer at a cut-price 1m euros - £770,000.
The France international has failed to justify his enormous price tag since arriving at the club from Lyon in 2001, scoring just 10 goals in 54 league appearances for the Cottagers.

:eek:

He makes Heskey look prolific. And why does he keep getting called-up for France. :nuts:

mjb1975

22-05-2003, 16:47

Originally posted by Mr Dubby
:oh-hum: Keller - top form? :nono:

Yep - superb season for us, and officially our Carling Opta Player Of The Season. Yes, a couple of mistakes along the way (a couple of red mist moments), but still a very, very good goalie and he's had a good season.

That, despite the fact that we kept the fewest clean sheets in the Prem (apparently) :nuts:

Mr Dubby

23-05-2003, 09:17

Originally posted by mjb1975
Yep - superb season for us, and officially our Carling Opta Player Of The Season. Yes, a couple of mistakes along the way (a couple of red mist moments), but still a very, very good goalie and he's had a good season.

That, despite the fact that we kept the fewest clean sheets in the Prem (apparently) :nuts:

he was having a good season till I put him in my Fantasy Teams at 1.5m he was a bargin AND A COMPLETE FLOP and cost me a lot of money!

anyway

Berger to Leeds or Pompey (should know on Monday)