Stereophonics - You Gotta Go There To Come Back [Archive]

kohoutec

10-05-2003, 13:54

Originally posted by Arch Stanton
Mr Stanton looks forward to hearing the 'Massive Attack' influence on the new album*.

*I'm not making that up BTW Mr Jones claimed that in an interview.

:lol: Can't wait :D

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:04

1st track 'Help Me' isnt at all bad...very Oasisy/Lennon esque vocals though.

7 minutes long too :eek:

Not bad so far :lol:

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:08

2nd track 'Maybe Tomorrow' is a lot more mellow....sounds a bit like Sting to me though...

I can hear a Lighthouse Family influence here...no Massive Attack yet :lol:

Inoffensive MOR really...but too long at nearly 5 minutes...about 4 minutes too long.

EDIT : Ohhh a few beats in the last 5 seconds...very trip hop :nuts: :lol:

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:09

3rd track Madame Helga

Nuff said :gag:

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:17

4th track - 'You Stole my Money - Honey' : Crap title but is the track as duff ?

Kinda Travis pace with some dreadful lyrics, but its not detestable....yet...its dragging a bit now though.

The vocals could cut glass for sure.

"Youve got no style about you"

You said it our Kelly !!

Arch Stanton

10-05-2003, 14:21

I've found it to download but it's more fun just to read Mr Barlows comments.:)

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:22

5th track 'Getaway'.

OK Im really getting into this now....honestly.

Oh no its started with some 'Doo-doos !!

:eek:

whispery vocals..a Godsend at this stage.

Some good things about this track, but some duff bits, notably the piano overdubs !....and harmonica !!!!

Not a disaster. Bad start though...damn those doo-doos !

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:25

6th track - Climbing The Wall

You may well be by this stage of the album

This has started very badly. Trumpets and stuff..kinda like Jazz Club without the humour.

...only half way through ...damn.

This song would be decent without the wind instruments though..it does plod a bit, but thats alright. The banjo-esque guitar playing is unforgiveable though.

Jeff Beck does Deliverance !!

Next !

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:30

7th track - Jealousy is a rare beast.

as a postnote to the preceeding track...I should point out it ends with some truly awful overdubbed vocals...the lyrics were dreadful too...

Anyway track 7 :

ohhh this is a bit lo-fi to start with...the vocals sound like Mr Jones was squatting in a dustbin..nice reverb.

More overdubbed guitars man ! Just hire 26 guitar players and be done with it !

Oh no he said it : <b> 4 and 20 blackbirds sitting in a street</b> WTF does that mean !!??? :nuts:

Nearly as bad as Madame Helga frankly...now hes changed 'Blackbirds' for 'Whitebirds'...and now we have a gospel choir in the studio and an overdubbed guitar solo ....

:gag: :gag:

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:34

Track 8 : Im Alright.

Yes you are, but Im suffering now.

The end of track 7 was truly awful, surely this must pick things up a tad ?

OK THIS IS THE MASSIVE ATTACK track....

Beats for the first 10 seconds...then they stop LOL

"<b>1,2,3,4,5 now I drink a fish alive</b>" :nuts: :lol:

The beats are back.

He is right, this is certainly as woeful as the last Massive Attack record, if thats the point he was getting at :suspect:

Another 2 minutes yet...damn.

8 down, 3 to go...

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:39

Track 9 has absolutely nothing to live up to...and that first track started so well too ! :oh-hum:

'Nothing Precious' is its name and its certainly not.

Ive just noticed theres 13 tracks not 11...NO !!!!!!

OMG its gone massively trip hop now. Its almost as if Masseeve are there in the studio.

I think they are trying to do an 'Exile on Main Street' with this record, and its not coming off. Possibly because Kelly Jones sounds more like Lennon outtakes here rather than anything like Jagger.

Actually it sounds a bit like 'Tumbling Dice' by The Stones, but obviously with the added dodgy lyrics.

Not a bad track by any means.

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:44

Track 10 - Rainbows and Pots of Gold (:gag: )

I guess you either love or hate Mr Jones' vocal style, but honestly this track is painful to listen to...

One bonus is there doesn't appear to be a chorus...not had one in the first 3 minutes anyway...

Oh well the strings are nice...erm...

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:49

Track 11 - I Miss You Now

God another 5 minute monster !!!

Now I approached this record as a fan of their debut, but honestly with 2 tracks to go I can already claim this as the worst record I have heard this year.

A slow plodding track with 4 different vocal overdubs, at least 3 of them from Jones himself...nice.

This is awful. Slow 5 minute track...no description needed is there ?
:oh-hum: :|

Lorne.t

10-05-2003, 14:49

I couldn't even bring myself to download this when I saw it on IRC today!
Still no sign of the Girls aloud or Cerys Matthews albums though...:(

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:53

Track 12...nearly finished - wahooo!!! is called 'High as the Ceiling' wtf !! :lol: :notworthy

Well it starts well by being only just over 3 minutes long...

This will be a single for sure...only because obviously they are choosing the worst tracks to release as singles (judging by Madame Helga)...but this is worse than that.

Im embarrassed to have this track on my expensive hi-fi...and theres nobody else in the house at the moment either. Hope the neighbours don't hear it :(

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:54

Huazza we hit the final track at last !!!

and its called 'Since I told You Its Over'

Don't sound so sad Kelly its nearly over now !!

Another slow burning 4 minute bloater...

Nonsensical lyrics and grating vocals.

Awful..awful I say !!!

LouBarlow

10-05-2003, 14:56

Overall :

truly, I wanted this to be a great record to silence all their critics...but its not...and thats the fact of the matter.

I would be suprised if even die hard Stereophonics fans appreciated this effort.

Wherever they went they should of stayed there...

Truly abysmal. :eek: :help:

Im off to get bladdered !

gravesend46

10-05-2003, 16:00

Heh heh. Nice one Lou. I downloaded Madame Helga and listened to it while reading this review and it's bloody awful! I love their first album, and their second's OK, but I don't think I'll bother taking the time to download this! :suspect:

fuzzylogic

10-05-2003, 16:44

I have to agree that the single is bad, probably one of the worst things that they have ever released, I listened to the promo of about 5 tracks and thought it was okay, but nothing special.

TheoGB

20-05-2003, 12:13

I seem to remember liking a couple of their tracks (Traffic, Bartender and the Thief, maybe another) but they are utterly abyssmal.

Fun to read 'Lou's' comments though! :thumbs:

wozwebs

20-05-2003, 13:11

Album should be retitlted - Rod Stewart, the early years.

Pants

Arch Stanton

20-05-2003, 13:25

Originally posted by wozwebs
Album should be retitlted - Rod Stewart, the early years.

Pants

But Rod Stewart - the early years were good. :suspect:

George vader

20-05-2003, 13:48

Were 20+ individual posts really necessary?
You don't like the band so why review the new album?:oh-hum:

LouBarlow

20-05-2003, 14:20

Originally posted by George vader
Were 20+ individual posts really necessary?
You don't like the band so why review the new album?:oh-hum:

It was a running commentary...track by track.

I do like the band, if you had read my posts, but this record is ****, plain and simple.

I will though happily send you 2p for wasting your bandwith and/or time.

Bloody newbies ! :dork: :nuts: :lol:

jambo

20-05-2003, 14:43

Lou, I thought you're review was class. Thankyou.

Pisces Iscariot

20-05-2003, 14:45

Originally posted by George vader
Were 20+ individual posts really necessary?
You don't like the band so why review the new album?:oh-hum:
Ooooooooooh. I guess there is someone who likes the new album! :lol:

George vader

20-05-2003, 15:04

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Ooooooooooh. I guess there is someone who likes the new album! :lol:
Um..I said I like the album?
a. Haven't heard it
b. Don't like the band
Drehknopf:dork:

Pisces Iscariot

20-05-2003, 15:12

Originally posted by George vader
Drehknopf:dork:
Who are you calling a rotary button? :nuts:

searla

20-05-2003, 15:44

AHHHHHH ANOTHER "LETS ALL SLATE THE STEREOPHONICS!!" THREAD!!!

FOR GODS SAKES GET GRIP OF YOURSELVES YOU BUNCH OF HEATHENS!!!

:mad:

Pisces Iscariot

20-05-2003, 15:53

Originally posted by searla
AHHHHHH ANOTHER "LETS ALL SLATE THE STEREOPHONICS!!" THREAD!!!

FOR GODS SAKES GET GRIP OF YOURSELVES YOU BUNCH OF HEATHENS!!!

:mad: Anyone who's managed to drink them self into hospital has obviously well and truly pickled their brain (and liver!) so to you anything will sound good. ;)

George vader

20-05-2003, 16:29

Originally posted by LouBarlow
It was a running commentary...track by track.

I do like the band, if you had read my posts, but this record is ****, plain and simple.

I will though happily send you 2p for wasting your bandwith and/or time.

Bloody newbies ! :dork: :nuts: :lol:
http://www.geocities.com/rjwilliams35/moon.txt

searla

20-05-2003, 17:14

Originally posted by Pisces Iscariot
Anyone who's managed to drink them self into hospital has obviously well and truly pickled their brain (and liver!) so to you anything will sound good. ;)

HaHa - Fair comment

Actually, I've listened to the new album and will have to agree that it is a poor effort!

Just sick of re-reading the same comments about the Stereophonics - thats all:(:lol:

Robby

20-05-2003, 17:28

:lol:

I thought that was a noble effort Lou, you did the forums proud and survived. :D

It was a laff reading your comments song by song, the first few are joyfully optimistic then the tone of doubt and pity (and sheer resentment towards the end, how dare they pollute your Hi-Fi :nuts: ) seep in.

More overdubbed guitars man ! Just hire 26 guitar players and be done with it !

:clap:

FWIW i'm not exactly a fan nor hater but def prefer their older stuff to the newer.

I'm opimistic for the first few tracks at least. :D

RES999

20-05-2003, 17:47

Just listened to the album and its not that bad. No tracks really stand out as being great though.

Johnny Vodka

20-05-2003, 17:50

Maybe it needs a second listen. :p

paulclissold

20-05-2003, 18:12

Originally posted by Johnny Vodka
Maybe it needs a second listen. :p

More like erasing from the hard drive.

Enjoyed the review Lou.

LouBarlow

20-05-2003, 19:11

*cough* I still quite like that epic first track *cough* :suspect: :D

vsehijpal

21-05-2003, 10:21

I think Lour Barlow should review all albums

beaky

21-05-2003, 11:37

Am looking forward to this. Hope it's a bit more like WGA than their last one.

GregB

21-05-2003, 11:40

Originally posted by beaky
Am looking forward to this. Hope it's a bit more like WGA than their last one.

Probably not a good idea to admit to looking forward to a Stereophonics album on here as it could lead to untold abuse and ridicule

:p

beaky

21-05-2003, 12:24

Originally posted by GregB
Probably not a good idea to admit to looking forward to a Stereophonics album on here as it could lead to untold abuse and ridicule

:p

I don't care. I have all the Radiohead, Muse and Travis albums amongst my favourites, so I hope that redeems me a little :p

TheoGB

21-05-2003, 12:30

Originally posted by beaky
I don't care. I have all the Radiohead, Muse and Travis albums amongst my favourites, so I hope that redeems me a little :p

Hmm. Radiohead yes. I think Muse and Travis drop the average again.

You can redeem yourself with ...And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead, Sonic Youth, Nirvana, and Fugazi, however! :p

beaky

21-05-2003, 12:55

My brother's band are quite good too.

http://go.to/bayroot

Download the mp3's

Baron

22-05-2003, 21:18

Interesting comments from people who have only listen to the tracks once at the most. I have yet to find any album I liked from the first listen. Infact I've found if the tracks take a while to grow on me I like them more. Try giving it a second or third listen its the least you can do as its only cost you a few pence to download.

Muddy Mudskipper

22-05-2003, 21:32

What if you find Kelly Jones' voice about as appealing as rusty spoons scraping a blackboard?

LouBarlow

22-05-2003, 22:27

Originally posted by Baron
Interesting comments from people who have only listen to the tracks once at the most. I have yet to find any album I liked from the first listen. Infact I've found if the tracks take a while to grow on me I like them more. Try giving it a second or third listen its the least you can do as its only cost you a few pence to download.

What rubbish.

Its easy to spot many a crappy album from one listen. Likewise its easy to spot a potential masterpiece.

This album is ****-poor no matter how many times you listen to it...and if you've never liked an album from one listen, dare I say you aren't listening to the right music :p

Pisces Iscariot

22-05-2003, 22:34

Originally posted by LouBarlow
...and if you've never liked an album from one listen, dare I say you aren't listening to the right music :p
Indeed. Sure there are some albums that you might note like/get after one listen but if it's the same with every album then you're listening to the wrong stuff.

Baron

23-05-2003, 07:38

Its easy to spot many a crappy album from one listen. Likewise its easy to spot a potential masterpiece
If its so easy for you to spot a potential masterpiece from a crap album you must have a well paid job in the record industry then mate? Please tell me what these masterpieces are instead of slating the crap ones then.

TheoGB

23-05-2003, 07:40

Originally posted by beaky
My brother's band are quite good too.

http://go.to/bayroot

Download the mp3's

That's scary! I've been to that site about 2 years ago when I was frequenting the Radiohead NG. Is your brother OnionBob (I think his name was).

I might grab some of the MP3s this time.

TheoGB

23-05-2003, 07:42

Originally posted by LouBarlow
and if you've never liked an album from one listen, dare I say you aren't listening to the right music :p

Well said that geeky artist. :thumbs:

Originally posted by Baron
If its so easy for you to spot a potential masterpiece from a crap album you must have a well paid job in the record industry then mate? Please tell me what these masterpieces are instead of slating the crap ones then.

Not sure what you're suggesting here. Album's I loved on first listen (off the top of my head):
David Bowie: Hunky Dory
Radiohead: OK Computer
Supergrass: I Should Coco
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead: Madonna
Fugazi: Repeater
Blur: Blur
DJ Shadow: Endtroducing...
Bob Dylan: Bringing It All Back Home

Baron

23-05-2003, 08:06

I'm suggesting if you only listen to an album once and then dismiss it your musical taste won't develope very far. There are very few ablums out there on which I can say I can listen to the whole thing without skipping tracks and I find alot of times tracks I like when I first here an Album are not necessarily my favorite tracks when I listen to it now. All I am saying is you are downloading this music for next to nothing and then after one listen slagging it off, not every album is a masterpiece but there could be a decent track on it if you give it a chance

TheoGB

23-05-2003, 08:34

Originally posted by Baron
I'm suggesting if you only listen to an album once and then dismiss it your musical taste won't develope very far. There are very few ablums out there on which I can say I can listen to the whole thing without skipping tracks and I find alot of times tracks I like when I first here an Album are not necessarily my favorite tracks when I listen to it now. All I am saying is you are downloading this music for next to nothing and then after one listen slagging it off, not every album is a masterpiece but there could be a decent track on it if you give it a chance

Well I think you do Lou a disservice. As is apparent from all other times he's downloaded stuff, he does indeed listen more than once, and he has professed a liking already for track 1, if you read back.

I haven't downloaded it and am not interested. No one's suggesting there isn't such a thing as a 'grower', but some stuff will never be your sort of thing, no matter how hard you try.

Baron

23-05-2003, 08:48

Well I think you do Lou a disservice. As is apparent from all other times he's downloaded stuff, he does indeed listen more than once, and he has professed a liking already for track 1, if you read back
All I am saying is if you are going to take the time an effort to review something it most be worth taking the time and effort to listen to it a few times first. I have heard the album 3 or 4 times now. I agree it is generally poor and tracks 1 & 13 are the only ones I will take from it.

beaky

23-05-2003, 09:16

Originally posted by TheoGB
That's scary! I've been to that site about 2 years ago when I was frequenting the Radiohead NG. Is your brother OnionBob (I think his name was).

I might grab some of the MP3s this time.

He is indeed :D

TheoGB

23-05-2003, 09:35

Originally posted by beaky
He is indeed :D

Blimey...small world. :)

The stuff's not too shoddy actually, though it's a bit overblown for me. I like the intro to "Comingout" a lot - more than the rest of the track (sorry). A bit too 'rock' maybe for me, but above the average of the bands I see toiling the circuit round here. Good sound on the MP3s too - nice and loud, and very tight recording. Do they ever play London?

beaky

23-05-2003, 09:38

Originally posted by TheoGB
Blimey...small world. :)

The stuff's not too shoddy actually, though it's a bit overblown for me. I like the intro to "Comingout" a lot - more than the rest of the track (sorry). A bit too 'rock' maybe for me, but above the average of the bands I see toiling the circuit round here. Good sound on the MP3s too - nice and loud, and very tight recording. Do they ever play London?

No. I've only been to one of their gigs and I thought it was ace. My brother sings lead on some of the songs though - I never knew he had that good a voice until i heard him sing. Sadly the band are no more, due to uni etc, but he's hoping to start a new one, as he wrote most of the songs and the music IIRC.

TheoGB

23-05-2003, 09:52

Oh right.

Which Uni is he at, then? I seem to remember him banging on about the number of cool FX pedals he had...:)

beaky

23-05-2003, 09:56

Originally posted by TheoGB
Oh right.

Which Uni is he at, then? I seem to remember him banging on about the number of cool FX pedals he had...:)

Exeter Uni - doing English.

LouBarlow

23-05-2003, 16:25

Originally posted by Baron
I'm suggesting if you only listen to an album once and then dismiss it your musical taste won't develope very far. There are very few ablums out there on which I can say I can listen to the whole thing without skipping tracks and I find alot of times tracks I like when I first here an Album are not necessarily my favorite tracks when I listen to it now. All I am saying is you are downloading this music for next to nothing and then after one listen slagging it off, not every album is a masterpiece but there could be a decent track on it if you give it a chance

My 'review' wasn't intended as a serious critic of the album FFS, it was a way to waste an hour one wet saturday afternoon. It was an attempt at a real-time review giving a first impression, nothing deep or analytical.

Saying that, your mention of needing to skip tracks on most of your LPs leads me to again question the music you choose to listen to.

Hey its your choice, but its the other way round for me. There are few long players, if any, where I need to skip any track.

beaky

23-05-2003, 20:41

TheoGB, bob wants to know what you name on AMR was. He says he may know you.

TheoGB

23-05-2003, 23:07

Originally posted by beaky
TheoGB, bob wants to know what you name on AMR was. He says he may know you.

I dunno. We must have 'crossed swords' a few times for me to remember him, I guess! :nuts: I've not been on NG's since the time of the Oxford gig in the park.

I would have been just TGB or E=MC TGB - something like that. It was what I was using to play Half-Life at the time! :)

The Uni question was back to front really. I thought maybe he'd be in a Uni close to London and so would form a new band that would be likely to play round here. :D

bongo

24-05-2003, 11:29

Heard what will be the next single on virgin radio yesterday. Sounds good.

Muddy Mudskipper

28-05-2003, 11:27

I watched a Stereophonics video the whole way through yesterday. :|

I had a good reason though in that the middle backing singer is lovely. :luv:

Don't suppose anyone knows who she is? :dork:

Harsin

28-05-2003, 12:59

Originally posted by Muddy Mudskipper
I watched a Stereophonics video the whole way through yesterday. :|

I had a good reason though in that the drummer is lovely. :luv:

Don't suppose anyone knows who he is? :dork:

:eek:

Muddy Mudskipper

28-05-2003, 13:35

:|

Do you know his name or not? :wave:

TheoGB

28-05-2003, 14:22

Originally posted by Harsin
:eek:

Dude that was soooo out of order.

And no one, and I mean NO ONE better post a pic of their drummer, or I'm liable to throw up...in which case that person can expect a little parcel to turn up in their post. :gag:

Baron

28-05-2003, 22:26

Hey its your choice, but its the other way round for me. There are few long players, if any, where I need to skip any track.
I have in excess of 400 LP's for me to like every track on every album would be impossible, fortunately with todays technology I can take from albums what I like and not have to listen to what I don't like (after giving it a few listen's of course).

ian_davies

29-05-2003, 11:11

Hardly surprising this has turned out to be a load of *EDIT*. I do agree that the first album was good, but everything else since then has been dismal, grating, depressive, and downright crap. But of course, the Welshies round here will lap it up, claiming it to be a godsend :oh-hum:

I'd be quite happy to talk about a certain other album that's released no more than a week later after this dirge has been released, but that would only offend Lou ;)

LouBarlow

29-05-2003, 16:27

Originally posted by ian_davies
I'd be quite happy to talk about a certain other album that's released no more than a week later after this dirge has been released, but that would only offend Lou ;)

What album Ian ?

Anything released this year will be better than the 'phonics record anyway ;)

ian_davies

30-05-2003, 09:38

Why, Hail to the Thief of course!

jobbymaster

30-05-2003, 10:10

Originally posted by ian_davies
Why, Hail to the Thief of course!

dont get your hopes up radiohead have nose dived big style!

TheoGB

30-05-2003, 11:48

Originally posted by ian_davies
Why, Hail to the Thief of course!

I'm pretty sure Lou's last comment on HTTT was that he was loving it, actually. :)

LouBarlow

30-05-2003, 12:31

Originally posted by TheoGB
I'm pretty sure Lou's last comment on HTTT was that he was loving it, actually. :)

Yup indeed Theo.

Fabulous album...just stopped listening to it for a while, so I can appreciate it again when its officially released.

If you honestly think the Phonics record is comparable....erm....you must be deaf :p

LouBarlow

04-06-2003, 16:42

So....anyone bought this yet ?

beebul

04-06-2003, 16:45

Steve C's got his own 'official' thread :lol:

LouBarlow

04-06-2003, 16:56

Originally posted by beebul
Steve C's got his own 'official' thread :lol:

Its not as big as mine...

Or his thread :p

Oh and did i mention downloading the album anywhere. I won a promo as a booby prize in a local radio competition. :|

LouBarlow

04-06-2003, 17:31

Still loving that first track though...one of the best songs they've ever written :thumbs:

LouBarlow

04-06-2003, 17:46

Though track 2 starts a major decline...still after another couple of listens, it is bareable, but not as good as their excellent 1st record.

GregB

04-06-2003, 18:09

Originally posted by LouBarlow
Its not as big as mine...

Or his thread :p

Oh and did i mention downloading the album anywhere. I won a promo as a booby prize in a local radio competition. :| That was first prize I believer. I won 2nd prize which was 2 copies :p