[F1] - Monaco Grand Prix, Monte Carlo

[Panavision]

I love the Monaco GP, but this year, with one lap qualifying... it's going to be amazing!!!
Watch out for the Renaults! And Macs, especially MACs. Interesting to see how the Ferrari goes here.

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Qualifying 1
Repeat Thursday 00.00 - 01.15

Qualifying 2
Live Saturday 12.40 -14.15

Race
Live Sunday 12.05 - 15.10

Race highlights
Sunday 00.00 - 01.00

[ashtray_head]

Have you been?

Its really awesome:thumbs: :notworthy

[ashtray_head]

I think Alonso will be one to watch, and possibly webber. Other than the usual suspects:clap:

[Kryten]

Thanks for the reminder, probably my favourite GP of the year. Looks like another weekend with no lie-ins.

[Panavision]

Never been Ashtray, tell us more? Obviously you've been. Is it expensive to go there?

[The Bear]

Originally posted by Panavision
Never been Ashtray, tell us more? Obviously you've been. Is it expensive to go there? Yeah I heard the parking for your helicopter is quite expensive. Put me off going anyway.

8-] - Surely ITV mean the Q1 repeat is on Friday night not Thursday!!??

My predictions are for the people that have shown that they can consistently qualify well with the one-lap. e.g, Schuey, Button, Webber, Alonso, Frentzen.
Also the more aggressive drivers may do well if they get it right. e.g, Villeneuve and Montoya.

Should be 2 great qualifying sessions to watch. Especially Q1 with light fuel.

[Dr Hfuhruhurr]

But isn't it virtually impossible to over-take meaning that the race is won in qualifying, or lost thru realiability or pit-stops.

[SOUNDSTYLE]

Can't wait for this race, especially this season where we've had some close racing.

[ashtray_head]

I went in 97 when the German git won:oh-hum:
4 of us went through Page and Moy and got the coach down to Nice (Where we stayed) and they then coached us in to Monaco on Saturday and Sunday.

All I can say is WOW:thumbs: :clap: :notworthy
All of the drivers are superb! You think the streets look narrow on telly, well I tell you they are soooo narrow it is unreal!

If you are gonna go F1 once, go Monaco. I think the weekend cost me about £500+ spending money but it was well worth it:D

I have been Silverstone twice as well but only the atmosphere beats Monaco!

The noise at Silverstone is good but in Monaco it's INCREDIBLE:eek: And you are so close to the cars

It sends shivers down your spine!!

[ashtray_head]

Originally posted by Dr Hfuhruhurr
But isn't it virtually impossible to over-take meaning that the race is won in qualifying, or lost thru realiability or pit-stops.


It is sadly under the current regs:oh-hum: Lets get rid of the grooved tyres and give back the cars some mechanical grip

[Bearhorn]

Current regs or not - I don't think there has ever been a period where Monaco has been renowned for its overtaking opportunities.

Slick tyres, semi-automatic gearbox, active suspension and traction control on Nigel Mansell's Williams FW14B in 1992 still couldn't beat Ayrton Senna's manual :eek:, non-active, non-tractioned 6 inches off-line McLaren :notworthy.

I think this year the circuit has been reprofiled thanks to some reclaimed land so that the area after the swimming pool complex is slightly wider leading into a bottleneck at La Rascasse near the end of the lap.

Murray Walker The engine on Prost's McLaren is alight with a fiery glow as he heads towards the Swimming Pool.

James Hunt Well that should put it out then :notworthy

Monaco specialists include Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella (not to mention Olivier Panis who's one and only win so far came in the 1996 Monaco Grand Prix).

[Panavision]

8-] - Surely ITV mean the Q1 repeat is on Friday night not Thursday!!??


It's on Thursday, it's Monaco tradition to have the first session on a Thursday...maybe there's a logical reason for this?!?! Anyway, it's on Thurs midnight.

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by Panavision
It's on Thursday, it's Monaco tradition to have the first session on a Thursday...maybe there's a logical reason for this?!?! Anyway, it's on Thurs midnight.

Yes, there is a reason for this - it is to make the Grand Prix weekend longer so that the rich and famous and the hangers on arrive on Thursday for the start of the Grand Prix weekend and just spend all of Thursday evening through to Friday spending their money in Monaco's high-class drinking/eating/gambling establishments.

[hunts1uk]

Originally posted by Panavision
It's on Thursday, it's Monaco tradition to have the first session on a Thursday...maybe there's a logical reason for this?!?! Anyway, it's on Thurs midnight.

I think you will find there is a market on fridays.:thumbs:

[Panavision]

According to Watson, and I agree with him, DC's drive for MAC is in doubt for 2004. I would be surprised if they keep him on next year.

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Who is DC going to whine about and blame when he loses his drive....?

[The Bear]

Strange that I've never noticed it was on a thursday before!!

What was held on Thursday in previous years then? Practice sessions? I can't remember them having qualifying on Thursday then the race on Sunday.

[The Bear]

Originally posted by 8-]
Who is DC going to whine about and blame when he loses his drive....? Everybody who's ever worked with him in his career probably.

[unrealnils]

How about Irvine and Couldtard in the same team now that would be entertainment :D

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by The Bear
Strange that I've never noticed it was on a thursday before!!

What was held on Thursday in previous years then? Practice sessions? I can't remember them having qualifying on Thursday then the race on Sunday.

Yes, Thursday used to be first practice at Monaco.

The Monaco Grand Prix also used to start an hour later than the other races on the calendar so that the Royal family could have their lunch before enjoying the Grand Prix.

[ashtray_head]

Originally posted by The Bear
Strange that I've never noticed it was on a thursday before!!

What was held on Thursday in previous years then? Practice sessions? I can't remember them having qualifying on Thursday then the race on Sunday.


I think its a Bank holiday or something like that

[Panavision]

Jenson and Jacques are no longer fighting! The feud is over.

[Mandrill]

I wonder how many drivers will run a low fuel load so they can get a good grid position knowing that overtaking is impossible.

[worthit]

Here are the free practice times - Session 1 (C+P from F1-Live.com)

P. No Driver Team - Engine Tyres Times Ave/Gaps Laps
1. 14 WEBBER Jaguar Cosworth M 1'16"373 157.438 Km/h 21
2. 17 BUTTON BAR Honda B 1'16"476 + 0'00"103 25
3. 5 COULTHARD McLaren Mercedes M 1'16"505 + 0'00"132 25
4. 8 ALONSO Renault M 1'16"578 + 0'00"205 17
5. 7 TRULLI Renault M 1'16"800 + 0'00"427 14
6. 1 M.SCHUMACHER Ferrari B 1'16"915 + 0'00"542 33
7. 11 FISICHELLA Jordan Ford B 1'16"930 + 0'00"557 20
8. 3 MONTOYA Williams BMW M 1'17"173 + 0'00"800 22
9. 6 RAIKKONEN McLaren Mercedes M 1'17"218 + 0'00"845 22
10. 2 BARRICHELLO Ferrari B 1'17"372 + 0'00"999 31
11. 10 FRENTZEN Sauber Petronas B 1'17"550 + 0'01"177 27
12. 16 VILLENEUVE BAR Honda B 1'17"710 + 0'01"337 25
13. 20 PANIS Toyota M 1'17"811 + 0'01"438 21
14. 15 PIZZONIA Jaguar Cosworth M 1'17"913 + 0'01"540 15
15. 4 R.SCHUMACHER Williams BMW M 1'18"039 + 0'01"666 26
16. 12 FIRMAN Jordan Ford B 1'18"133 + 0'01"760 21
17. 9 HEIDFELD Sauber Petronas B 1'18"660 + 0'02"287 24
18. 18 WILSON Minardi Cosworth B 1'18"952 + 0'02"579 19
19. 19 VERSTAPPEN Minardi Cosworth B 1'19"026 + 0'02"653 21
20. 21 DA MATTA Toyota M 1'19"956 + 0'03"583 29

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1st QUALIFYING

1 M. Schumacher FER 1:16.305 0.000
2 R. Barrichello FER 1:16.636 0.331
3 J. Button BAR 1:16.895 0.590
4 J. Trulli REN 1:16.905 0.600
5 D. Coulthard MLA 1:17.059 0.754
6 R. Schumacher WIL 1:17.063 0.758
7 G. Fisichella JOR 1:17.080 0.775
8 J. Montoya WIL 1:17.108 0.803
9 M. Webber JAG 1:17.637 1.332
10 N. Heidfeld SAU 1:17.912 1.607
11 K. Räikkönen MLA 1:17.926 1.621
12 J. Villeneuve BAR 1:18.109 1.804
13 R. Firman JOR 1:18.286 1.981
14 F. Alonso REN 1:18.370 2.065
15 A. Pizzonia JAG 1:18.967 2.662
16 J. Verstappen MIN 1:19.421 3.116
17 J. Wilson MIN 1:19.680 3.375
18 O. Panis TOY 1:19.903 3.598
19 C. da Matta TOY 1:20.374 4.069
20 H. Frentzen SAU - engine blew up.

[Panavision]

Impressive run from Button in the BAR, the car is very close to Ferrari speeds! Light fuel loads tomorrow? I don't see any point really, I guess it depends on if you can maximise everything in the race for the first 15 laps and don't get held up!

[Dave B]

Originally posted by The Bear
Strange that I've never noticed it was on a thursday before!!

What was held on Thursday in previous years then? Practice sessions? I can't remember them having qualifying on Thursday then the race on Sunday.

I think most have not noticed before because this is the first year of the 2 qualifying sessions, last year etc... was just practise on a Thursday and then qualifying on the Staturday. Most people never bothered watching the practise so never noticed it being on a Thursday.

Dave

[movaado]

I guess Button won't be racing tomorrow after a 180mph crash, see here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula_one/2952066.stm)

Edit: I hope hes ok btw!

[Panavision]

He looks okay, just winded, doesn't look good for him in Quali though.

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His team boss said that he hit the barrier with a 30 G force! :eek:

[Mandrill]

Bloody hell that looked pretty nasty :eek: :eek:

Hit the barrier at 30G

Wont be qualifying IMO there no point him racing as starting from the back at Monaco he is unlikely to get any points he would be better off resting

[Mandrill]

The Renault is gutless, 10km off the Williams in the Tunnel cost Fisi a better grid placing

[unrealnils]

Yeah Trulli was like 15 mk slower then Ralp in the tunnel :(


Oh and Congrats on Ralph on getting pole.

Really hope the Renualts andd BMw's get the top 4 spots tomorrow so that it blows the title much more open

[Mr M0by]

Button will not be racing today.

I thought they might have let one of their Test Drivers (Anthony Davidson or Takuma Sato) race instead but this doesn't seem to be the case. Maybe they thought just an hours practice and then starting from the back wouldn't be worth it.

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Did anyone else just see the Tag advert with an F1 car and Tiger Woods?

[unrealnils]

yeah i did, cool ad i was suprised they didn't make it Tiger woods Vs Coultard and have him take off his helmet at the end and show his face...........


Felt like an Nike advert

[charlie]

Originally posted by 8-]
Did anyone else just see the Tag advert with an F1 car and Tiger Woods?

Yes, I think the driver of the car was Sarah Fisher (http://www.sarahfisher.com/)

Charlie

[unrealnils]

YES BMW's are 1-2 and RENAULTS are 4th and 6th :clap:

Good clean get away for the BMWs

[unrealnils]

HHH hits the wall and is out

[unrealnils]

SAFETY CAR

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by unrealnils
HHH hits the wall and is out

:brickwall :oh-hum:

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by unrealnils
SAFETY CAR

Well at least it's given the rest of the drivers a chance to find the '******'* parts of the track.

*Ralfie speak.:D

[8-]]

It's a shame that BAR couldn't bring in another driver... maybe someone like Bernoldi just for the benefit of Coulthard :)

[unrealnils]

:lol:

[Mr M0by]

Pizzonia out now aswell.

[Mr M0by]

OMG that's some lap by JPM.

[unrealnils]

that was a 1:15.2 ..............:notworthy


Class :thumbs:

[Mr M0by]

Woohoo Kimi is stuck in traffic.:clap:

[unrealnils]

Originally posted by MR M0BY
Woohoo Kimi is stuck in traffic.:clap:


:clap:

[Mr M0by]

Come in Trulli.... please.

[Mr M0by]

Schuey has 26 seconds over Trulli but may be putting in 8 or 9 seconds of fuel in the car.

1:15:4 for Michael there.

[Mr M0by]

1:14:7
:clap: :notworthy :clap:

[Mark]

Michael ahead of Ralf.

[GordonJ]

So, apart from the start and the first round of pitstops, has anyone actually managed to overtake on the track? :(

[Mr M0by]

Both Minardis seem to have retired simulataneously.:confused:

[Mark]

Originally posted by GordonJ
So, apart from the start and the first round of pitstops, has anyone actually managed to overtake on the track? :(
I don't think so. :(

What's happened to Wilson and Verstappen?

[8-]]

Originally posted by MR M0BY
1:14:7
:clap: :notworthy :clap: That was an amazing lap :notworthy

[unrealnils]

Come on Alonso get head of Coultard :mad:

[Mr M0by]

1:14:709 for Kimi.

[Mandrill]

Originally posted by GordonJ
So, apart from the start and the first round of pitstops, has anyone actually managed to overtake on the track? :(

No ,which is why I don't really like Monaco

[Mr M0by]

C'mon JPM.

[unrealnils]

COme one MONTOYA :clap:

[Mr M0by]

Yes.:clap:

[8-]]

JPM needs this win. A shame that Ralf's car seems to be giving him problems.

[8-]]

Nice one Trulli :clap:

What's the bet that DC is whinging about Trulli's move being dangerous..... :lol:

[unrealnils]

NICE ONE TRULLI :thumbs:

[Mark]

Originally posted by unrealnils
NICE ONE TRULLI :thumbs:

Even nicer one Fernando! :p

[Mr M0by]

Only now at the end of the race is Michael running consistently as fast if not faster than the two cars ahead. Perhaps the track has got cooler?

[8-]]

Almost 2 years since JPM's last and only other win..... it would be nice for him to get another


Villeneuve out.... 13 cars left

[unrealnils]

Indeed :D

[Mr M0by]

It's a shame that Schueys tyres didn't work in his middle stint, we could have really had an amazing finish. Let's just hope JPM keeps it together now.... or Kimi takes him out.:D

[Mr M0by]

only 6.9 between the top 3 now.:eek:

[8-]]

Its good that the Williams BMW are overcoming their 2003 reliability problems.... although Ralf is having problems...

[unrealnils]

Originally posted by MR M0BY
Let's just hope JPM keeps it together now.... or Kimi takes him out.:D

I'd woudn't complain if the top 2 take each other out :norty:

[unrealnils]

Originally posted by 8-]
Its good that the Williams BMW are overcoming their 2003 reliability problems.... although Ralf is having problems...

There the best placed team in this race so far 1st and 4th :clap:

[unrealnils]

5.2 secs between Rakkionen and M. Schumey :clap:

How many laps left ? :suspect:

[Mr M0by]

i think there's only about 4 left.

[unrealnils]

Oh its not gonna happen then :(

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by unrealnils
Oh its not gonna happen then :(

I don't think it was ever gonna happen since the second set of tyres went on. I think the track has cooled recently. Michael has made 15 seconds on the front two in this last stint.

[unrealnils]

who has had the fastest lap ? :)

[Mr M0by]

Kimi on a 1:14:5

[unrealnils]

Kimi you git :D






CONGRATS MONTOY ON WINNING THE MONACO GP :clap: :notworthy

[Mandrill]

Monty :clap: :clap: :clap:

[unrealnils]

And to BMW Williams :)

[Mr M0by]

It's quite staggering that given all of Williams GP wins and championships that they should have such an appalling record (by their standards) at Monaco.

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1 JP Montoya (Williams)
2 K Raikkonen (McLaren)
3 M Schumacher (Ferrari)
4 R Schumacher (Williams)
5 F Alonso (Renault)
6 J Trulli (Renault)
7 D Coulthard (McLaren)
8 R Barrichello (Ferrari)

[Mark]

Well done JPM - another driver on the top step of the podium, keeping it interesting! :)

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by Mark
Well done JPM - another driver on the top step of the podium, keeping it interesting! :)

5 different winners in 7 races and I wouldn't be surprised to see Alonso win a grand prix before the end of the season. Maybe Rubens too if all the front runners retire in the one race and he can wake himself up from his slumber.

[Mandrill]

Montys bird :norty: :norty:

[unrealnils]

Was that Motnoya's wife at the end hugging him she's very :norty: :luv: :thumbs:

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2003 Driver's Championship
1 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren 48
2 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 44
3 Fernando Alonso Renault 29
4 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 27
5 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams 25
6 Ralf Schumacher Williams 25
7 David Coulthard McLaren 25
8 Jarno Trulli Renault 13
9 Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan 10
10 Jenson Button BAR 8
11 Heinz-Harald Frentzen Sauber 7
12 Mark Webber Jaguar 4
13 Jacques Villeneuve BAR 3
14 Cristiano da Matta Toyota 3
15 Nick Heidfeld Sauber 1
16 Ralph Firman Jordan 1
17 Antonio Pizzonia Jaguar 0
18 Olivier Panis Toyota 0
19 Jos Verstappen Minardi 0
20 Justin Wilson Minardi 0


2003 Constructor's Championship
1 McLaren - Mercedes 73
2 Ferrari 71
3 Williams - BMW 50
4 Renault 42
5 Jordan - Ford 11
6 BAR - Honda 11
7 Sauber - Petronas 8
8 Jaguar - Cosworth 4
9 Toyota 3
10 Minardi - Cosworth 0

[Mandrill]

Originally posted by unrealnils
Was that Motnoya's wife at the end hugging him she's very :norty: :luv: :thumbs:

Yes :norty: :norty:

[unrealnils]

I reckon 3/4 people in POOL A will have similar points as we've all got players all over the top 10 :norty:

[unrealnils]

what the hell did kimi say at the start about starts ? :confused:

[unrealnils]

BLoody Kimi sounds like he's following Coultard and Ron :D

[8-]]

Originally posted by unrealnils
what the hell did kimi say at the start about starts ? :confused: Dunno .... I wonder if he will become more understandable when his voice breaks.... he sounds like a bizarre version of Zed from Police Academy.

[Bearhorn]

Kimi was saying that he never has any luck starting from 2nd place on the grid - he's got a point as that is the dusty side of the track.

Bridgestone let their runners down big time today. Only the two Ferraris managed to score for the Bridgestone teams and then not very well at that - 3rd and 8th :(

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Ferrari are often the only front-runners on Bridgestone. Michelin have made some very good advances recently and Bridgestone need to improve their game.

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by 8-]
Ferrari are often the only front-runners on Bridgestone. Michelin have made some very good advances recently and Bridgestone need to improve their game.

The problem is that Michelin and Bridgestone employ entirely different philosophies to tyre construction with the effect that Michelin and Bridgestone favour entirely different conditions which this weekend's Grand Prix at Monaco highlighted.

Bridgestones favour a cooler 'green' track which hasn't been rubbered in such as was the case on Thursday morning when the Ferrari's were the class of the field in first qualifying and Jenson Button was third quickest on the Bridgestone shod BAR.

Michelins favour a warmer, rubberised track which was why their runners so comprehensively dominated qualifying yesterday.

[The Bear]

Well done Kimi for that 1:14.5 :notworthy unrealnils - Ha!! :lol:

The big question for me is why oh why didn't they fuel the Ferraris to go to the end at the first pit-stops. James Allen said it was possible at that point of the race(lap 31). It probably would have taken an extra 5(?) seconds refuelling in the pits but would be well worth it in the end, negating the 26 seconds that all the front runners would've been losing for another pit-stop. Schumacher came out just in front or Ralf in 3rd, I think, so he wouldn't have come out too far behind the leaders.
The only reason I can think that they didn't do it was that it would have fed him back into traffic.

[unrealnils]

What about tyres ???

Would they come into why it was a 2 stop by them ?

Originally posted by The Bear
Well done Kimi for that 1:14.5 :notworthy unrealnils - Ha!! :lol:



LOL i was hoping schumy would bring me home that elusive 1 point from fastest lap :D

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by The Bear
Well done Kimi for that 1:14.5 :notworthy unrealnils - Ha!! :lol:

The big question for me is why oh why didn't they fuel the Ferraris to go to the end at the first pit-stops. James Allen said it was possible at that point of the race(lap 31). It probably would have taken an extra 5(?) seconds refuelling in the pits but would be well worth it in the end, negating the 26 seconds that all the front runners would've been losing for another pit-stop. Schumacher came out just in front or Ralf in 3rd, I think, so he wouldn't have come out too far behind the leaders.
The only reason I can think that they didn't do it was that it would have fed him back into traffic.

I think the answer lies in the Bridgestone tyre degradation and the fact that they would not have lasted long enough for a one stopper.

I was certainly hoping that when Ted Kravitz said that Ferrari were being 'brave' with their strategy it meant that they were one stopping Michael Schumacher - his pace at times certainly suggested that was what he was doing :p However, there was nothing brave at all about doing a late stopping two stop strategy :(

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by Bearhorn
I was certainly hoping that when Ted Kravitz said that Ferrari were being 'brave' with their strategy it meant that they were one stopping Michael Schumacher - his pace at times certainly suggested that was what he was doing :p However, there was nothing brave at all about doing a late stopping two stop strategy :(

I took it to mean one-stopping aswell, after all the 'aggressive' strategy Ferrari were meant to be considering was because of their grid positions. I guess when it came to making the call at the time they didn't think it would benefit them.

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Who would have thought...... almost half way through the season (7 of 16 races done) and a relative rookie leading the championship

[cervaro]

The only thing is, Ferrari have tested the F2003-GA for thousands of miles on their test tracks, whereas I seriously doubt McLaren will have achieved the same by the time it's introduced in 4-6 weeks time. I reckon it will suffer for that, and new Mercedes engines haven't exactly been reliable in the past. Raikkonen is doing better than I thought, but ultimately I doubt he'll be champion this year. That said, glad to see it's him and not that muppet Coulthard.

From a Ferrari point of view, Schumacher did a pretty good job considering his grid position and the problems the team had with the Bridgestones. More worrying for the team, and something the commentators picked up on, was the poor performance of Rubens. He must be living on borrowed time at Ferrari, but I don't believe someone like Fisichella is the answer. They would have been better offer taking Raikkonen from Sauber (in exchange for favorable terms on their engine supply deal).

Canada next. Hope the ITV muppets bother to show it live given it's an evening race (UK time).

[whitesquizzer]

Originally posted by cervaro
Canada next. Hope the ITV muppets bother to show it live given it's an evening race (UK time).

absolutely. And lets all pray they dont let Firman behind the mic again:p

[unrealnils]

LOL @ whitesquizzer


Jordan sure as hell didn't give us a good showing like Willams did :notworthy


Or maybe that was cuase they did an interview with Monty's missus :luv: :norty:

[The Bear]

Oh god how cringeworthy was Firman!!!

Why does he start every response with "Yeah, hopefully......"

[F1monkey]

I was embarrassed watching Firman!!

Did anyone else notice how Martin Brundle put on a foreign accent when talking to Ronaldo before the race?
Why do people do that???!!

Well done to JPM, good to see someone else on the podium rather than the usual red overalls:clap:

[Panavision]

I think Montoya was pacing himself, which is why Schumacher caught up fairly quickley.

What was Ralfie doing? Had to reverse during the race!!!

:lol:

Why do the ITV team think Firman is anything special? I don't think he's anything special. When he says that he's happy with 15th on the grid! I'm like WHAT?!?!

Fisi in a Ferrari next year would rock!

[whitesquizzer]

Overall this has been a much better season for the average racing fan.
Even as a Schumacher fan its nice to see young Kimi up there at this stage of the season and seeing Schuey having to work for his points.:)

[Mark]

Originally posted by cervaro
Canada next. Hope the ITV muppets bother to show it live given it's an evening race (UK time).

Aren't they contractually obligated to showing the races (but not neccessarily the qualifying) live? :confused:

[whitesquizzer]

Originally posted by Mark
Aren't they contractually obligated to showing the races (but not neccessarily the qualifying) live? :confused:

They have done recorded shows a couple of times over the last few years. Cant remember which ones but probably so it didnt clash with something vitally important like fame academy:oh-hum:

[Mr M0by]

.

[Mr M0by]

I'm pretty sure they've always shown the Canadian GP live and it's only been the Indy GP that hasn't. I guess we'll find out in time.

[Bearhorn]

Yes, there has never been a problem with showing the Canadian Grand Prix live as this has always taken place on an early evening. ITV have shown it live every year.

One of my favourite Grand Prix on the calendar - especially given the time it is on.

I pray for better luck for the Scuderia and a return to crushing victories for Michael Schumacher :notworthy

[Panavision]

M Schumacher drove a good race considering he had 31 laps of fuel, thought it was a good strategy! Come on Monty!!! :notworthy and your wife :luv:

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They showed the TV times at the end of the race yesterday.

They said that they would show the Canadian GP live at 6pm in 2 weeks time.

[Dave B]

Some of Martin Brundles comments where excellent. when he asked that footballer if he drives a ferrari and he said "no am banned at the moment". Then the comment about the camera man who was on the fast corner "Send that man a beer if he is still around after the weekend" :lol:

Dave

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by Dave B
Then the comment about the camera man who was on the fast corner "Send that man a beer if he is still around after the weekend" :lol:

Dave

Except that the camera at the entry into the Swimming Pool was on the end of a big crane and the operator was practically sitting over the harbour some way behind it :p

Regardless though, it was an excellent site for the camera as it really shows the amazing direction changes modern F1 cars are capable of :)

My favourite Martin Brundle quote of all time though is his retort following a Schumacher interview he clearly didn't agree with:

Well I guess if your name's Schumacher, you can talk cobblers!

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I've noticed that Martin Brundle hasn't been as obvious with his praise for DC recently.

Is he still DC's manager (or has he finally figured out what we've known for years)?

[whitesquizzer]

Originally posted by 8-]
Is he still DC's manager (or has he finally figured out what we've known for years)?

Yes I believe he is .....but you wouldnt want to shout about it would you?:nuts:

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by 8-]
I've noticed that Martin Brundle hasn't been as obvious with his praise for DC recently.

Is he still DC's manager (or has he finally figured out what we've known for years)?

He is still DC's manager hence his quip about the DC to Jaguar rumours at the Monaco Grand Prix when he said that 'somebody should tell me about it soon'.

But to be honest - what's to praise with DC? 7th place isn't anything to write home about on Hotel Columbus embossed writing paper is it?

Bearhorn's amazing F1 trivia #27
This time last year Michael Schumacher was three races away from clinching the World Championship.

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Originally posted by whitesquizzer
Yes I believe he is .....but you wouldnt want to shout about it would you?:nuts: :)

Originally posted by Bearhorn
But to be honest - what's to praise with DC? 7th place isn't anything to write home about on Hotel Columbus embossed writing paper is it? True - but that's never stopped Brundle from making excuses and praising DC in the past.....

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double :confused:

[Mr M0by]

Originally posted by Bearhorn
Bearhorn's amazing F1 trivia #27
This time last year Michael Schumacher was three races away from clinching the World Championship.

And I was there to see him win it.:clap: :clap:

Mr M0by's amazing F1 brag for the 27th time.
Wastes no opportunity to keep mentioning it.

[unrealnils]

:lol:

[Panavision]

Yeah, I've noticed Brundle not really praising DC, quite cautious with his comments recently. DC will be in a JAG next year, he's had chances with MAC and blown it at least 2 times!!!

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Originally posted by Panavision
DC will be in a JAG next year, he's had chances with MAC and blown it at least 2 times!!! Another thing in common with his best buddy Eddie Irvine :D

[whitesquizzer]

Originally posted by 8-]
Another thing in common with his best buddy Eddie Irvine :D

Eddie Irvine in a Ferrari giving everyone stick :lol: and :notworthy

Eddie Irvine in a Jag giving everyone stick :| and :(

[Bearhorn]

Respect to the Irv - did you see the totty on his yacht during the interview prior to the Monaco GP all just sitting there line astern waiting for their chance for Irv to come into their pit :eek:

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At least Irvine doesn't pretend to be a great driver (apart from when Schumacher broke his leg and Irvine actually started to believe that he could win).

He's in it for the money and lifestyle :thumbs:

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by 8-]
Another thing in common with his best buddy Eddie Irvine :D

But at least DC didn't have these provisions in his driver's contract which the Irv did:

7.4 Non-optimal Pitstops
The Team reserves the right at any time to execute, for the benefit of Driver, a Non-optimal Pitstop. A Non-optimal Pitstop to include, but not limited to:

(i) making available and fitting fewer Tyres than the Required Minimum;

(ii) forgetting to make available the Refuelling Aparatus; and

(iii) remote switching off of the engine for a Specified Period,

where for the purposes of this clause 7.4 Required Minimum means 'Four' and Specified Period shall mean the time (in seconds) Driver is ahead of Schumacher as determined by the Official Timers.

18.4 FIA World Drivers' Championship
For the purposes of this clause 18, an Immediate Termination Event shall be deemed to occur if, at the end of the Relevant Period, Driver has accumulated World Championship Points the total of which is greater than the total accumulated by the Competitor who, at the end of the Relevant Period, is in second place in the World Drivers' Championship.

[whitesquizzer]

:notworthy to bearhorn. very funny
where does that come from?

[Bearhorn]

Originally posted by whitesquizzer
:notworthy to bearhorn. very funny
where does that come from?

Freehand drafting off the top of my head just now (you didn't think I really managed to get the Irv's contract did you :suspect: )... :)

[whitesquizzer]

Originally posted by Bearhorn
(you didn't think I really managed to get the Irv's contract did you :suspect: )... :)

Thought you might be a close relative of everyones cardigan wearing friend..... Jean Todt.:suspect:
:D

[SOUNDSTYLE]

Hardly anything to download from www.f1onboard.com yet.
Do they normally take so long?
I really want to download a full qualifying lap.:clap:

[cervaro]

I liked Irvine myself, and he did a good job of stand-in team leader at Ferrari in 1999. Would have won the championship too if he'd been allowed to at Nurburgring. :( F1 needs characters like him. He's what Jacques Villeneuve could be with a personality instead of being a bolshie French-Canadian who won a World Championship due to being in the best car of its day.

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Originally posted by cervaro
I liked Irvine myself, and he did a good job of stand-in team leader at Ferrari in 1999. Would have won the championship too if he'd been allowed to at Nurburgring. :( F1 needs characters like him. Not on his own steam.

He was gifted at least 2 wins that season.... one by Schumacher and the other by Mika Salo (who on his first attempt at filling in for Schumacher was about to win a GP).

[Andrew70]

Originally posted by cervaro
....who won a World Championship due to being in the best car of its day.
I would point out the similarities to some of Schumacher's championships but I fear the lynch mob too much. :lol:


A.
An unashamed Schumacher anti-fan.
(He pinched HHF's girlfriend and married her, so that's another reason to not admire him.)

[cervaro]

Originally posted by Andrew70
(He pinched HHF's girlfriend and married her, so that's another reason to not admire him.)

Anyone mad enough to think Corinna Schumacher would have been better off with Frentzen? :nuts:

[whitesquizzer]

Originally posted by cervaro
Anyone mad enough to think Corinna Schumacher would have been better off with Frentzen? :nuts:

Well she would have had some quality time with him on most Grand prix sundays.:D

[The Bear]

Just in case anyone's interested, I noticed a pic of the Bahrain circuit on my F1 browsing:

http://mysite.freeserve.com/haznick/images/3-picture.jpg

It doesn't look that thrilling to be honest. The only real overtaking places I can see are at the ends of the two parallel straights and at the end of the straight on the left.

The twisty left-right section in the desert looks mildly interesting though.

[cervaro]

Can't imagine that many cars finishing the Bahrain GP unless some pretty radical cooling modifications are made to the cars. Bring back Spa!

[Panavision]

Originally posted by cervaro
I liked Irvine myself, and he did a good job of stand-in team leader at Ferrari in 1999. Would have won the championship too if he'd been allowed to at Nurburgring. :( F1 needs characters like him. He's what Jacques Villeneuve could be with a personality instead of being a bolshie French-Canadian who won a World Championship due to being in the best car of its day.

:lol: You need the best car to win the championship. Overtaking Schumacher on the outside at Portugal :thumbs:

Irvine didn't do a great job, but when the team is not 101% behind you...I guess it's difficult.


Can't imagine that many cars finishing the Bahrain GP unless some pretty radical cooling modifications are made to the cars. Bring back Spa!


I think the race will be held early in the season to avoid the extreme summer season.