Canon IP4200 Ink

[Wishy]

Hi Guys,

Not overly urgent at the moment as i have a set of canon original inks in it, but is it likely you'll have compatible ink carts for a canon ip4200 printer in any time soon?

Also, are you in any position to get originals? I'm keep to keep a £100 printer in good condition and don't use it overly (I have a long suffering laserjet to give real batterings to!)

[SVP Communications]

Hi Guys,

Not overly urgent at the moment as i have a set of canon original inks in it, but is it likely you'll have compatible ink carts for a canon ip4200 printer in any time soon?

Also, are you in any position to get originals? I'm keep to keep a £100 printer in good condition and don't use it overly (I have a long suffering laserjet to give real batterings to!)

Hi Wishy

Jet Tec are forecasing IP4200 compatibles for Jan/Feb 2006. Originals....doubtful to be honest, but it depends partly on Canons / Epsons attitute to compatible cartridges in the future.

Steve
www.svp.co.uk

[Wishy]

Hi Steve,

Any news on these compatible cartridges?

Steve

[SVP Communications]

We are still waiting for Jet Tec to make them available.

Steve
www.svp.co.uk

[po37]

We are still waiting for Jet Tec to make them available.

Steve
www.svp.co.uk


anything happening on these yet?
getting desperate here, :help:

[duder]

I'd also be interested in this - just had to buy a magenta one - got it for £7.59

[SVP Communications]

I'd also be interested in this - just had to buy a magenta one - got it for £7.59

Very sorry, still waiting :(

Steve
www.svp.co.uk

[Jonny_doe]

I was going to get this printer , but i might hold out , or find a different one , as it looks like compatibles aren't coming

[Repo]

<-- confused

They are on the website now - Jet Tec C21, C22, C22b

[Jonny_doe]

<-- confused

They are on the website now - Jet Tec C21, C22, C22b

Sry , but these aren't for the ip4200

[GlennSh]

I was going to get this printer , but i might hold out , or find a different one , as it looks like compatibles aren't coming

I'm in exactly the same boat - may have to go for an Epson after all

[Pheonix]

I'm in exactly the same boat - may have to go for an Epson after all

Don't Epson do the same thing as well?

I'd prefer Canon over Epson any day, but it is a shame they've chipped their carts, as its always good to get cheap blacks, if not colours.

[GlennSh]

the Epson R220 is £60 in Asda atm and the compatibles are available from SVP. If anyone can recommend an equivalent Canon which takes compat's then I'm all ears :)

[Jonny_doe]

Does anyone know if the compatibles for the ip4200 are going to be made ?? or does it look like it's not , because this printers been out for alittle while now , so i would of thought that if they were going to be made, then they would have been by now ...

[Pheonix]

Does anyone know if the compatibles for the ip4200 are going to be made ?? or does it look like it's not , because this printers been out for alittle while now , so i would of thought that if they were going to be made, then they would have been by now ...

Apparently there are patent, copyright and plain difficulty issues in copying Canon's new thinktank ink tank chip technology. So I beleive that this is where the delay lies.

You can refill the tanks, but you loose all ink monitoring (and letting the ink run dry could burn out the inkheads) and you have to press the resume button on the printer every time you print.

[Jonny_doe]

Well I emailed Jettec , and here's the reply i got ...

Thank you for your e-mail.
These cartridges are in development at the moment but I am unable to inform when or if these will be manufactured but please keep up to date on www.jettec.com If you wish any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind Regards
Amanda
Jet Tec


so I don't know if thats good or bad, lol

[po37]

just had to buy a full set of originals, £50
nearly crying as i handed over the cash :cry:

[Jonny_doe]

just had to buy a full set of originals, £50
nearly crying as i handed over the cash :cry:
yes the cheapest i've found is orginals , but at about £40 for the set , but the postage on top :cry:

[workshy]

Full set of originals from valueshop for £37.13 delivered.

[Jonny_doe]

Full set of originals from valueshop for £37.13 delivered.
nice find m8

[Jonny_doe]

lo again guys , i've found a german site that selling compatibles
http://www.dvdsale24.de/product_info.php?products_id=90

[Chris]

lo again guys , i've found a german site that selling compatibles
http://www.dvdsale24.de/product_info.php?products_id=90

With those you need to take the chip off original carts and put them on the compatible carts, it will treat these new carts are being refilled and so the printer will still disable ink level monitoring etc.

[Bubble]

you're better off buying a really decent refill kit and doing it yourself tbh people, I got a ip4200 for a friend and was under the illusionj that the clones would be out before the originals had ran out, obviously not...

left me a little red faced, so I went out and bought them a Crab ink refill kit for the ip4200 and the results are spectacular! real easy to refill and cost effective, think it works out at £1.70 a refill per cartridge which is a far sight better than £8 an original!

As has been said before, you do lose all ink monitoring capabilities and i'm sure it mentioned something along the lines of it knew that it had been refilled and the warranty was now void!

Anyways, link to the refill ink is here (http://cartridge-supersaver.co.uk/cartridge/KB12C-530-Color-inkjet-refill-kit.html), I used them a couple of times now and they have been excellent, real quick delivery and they where using special delivery for me, so well insured!

hope this helps until proper cloned carts are out :)

G

[dabotsonline]

Jet Tec are advertising a complete set of refills: http://jettec.co.uk/products_canonrefill.asp

Does anyone know where this is available to buy? I might just go for the aforementioned Crab refills but it'd be nice to have an alternative.

[Wishy]

Jet Tech only have 4 colours in the pack when its a 5 colour cart. They're sharing the photo black with the text black. Probably means the quality of the photos won't be as good. When i first got the printer i thought "two blacks, thats stupid", but there is a clear difference in the results.

While I were after compatibles, as i were forever cleaning my epson even under original carts, I don't think i'd go the compatibles route as i've had no clogging or hassle of any kind with the canon originals.

[Welshlad]

Must be honest, I had loads of problems with compatibles until i tried the jet-tec ones which are as good as originals.
Will deffo give them a shot when they are released!

[BICCUS1]

Does anyone kow if these are out yet ?

I need a new printer but not if its only originals avalible :(

shane

[SVP Communications]

Does anyone kow if these are out yet ?

I need a new printer but not if its only originals avalible :(

shane

We've not got any for the 4200 yet:(

Steve
www.svp.co.uk

[Wishy]

Steve, Would you be able to stock original ink at reasonable prices? Current cheapest are http://www.inkraider.co.uk/ and 7DayShop (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=530&gid=6083&id=30372)

[SVP Communications]

Steve, Would you be able to stock original ink at reasonable prices? Current cheapest are http://www.inkraider.co.uk/ and 7DayShop (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://www.awin1.com/awclick.php?mid=530&gid=6083&id=30372)
Hi Wishy

I'll do some research into this.

Steve
www.svp.co.uk

[luke0380]

any news?

[silvermouse]

I bought this printer a few months ago, ignorant of the fact that compatibles were not on the horizon. After seeing lots of other ink brands on offer for the iP4000 and the like, I just assumed they would be coming.

What's the big obstacle compared with the previous generation (3000 / 4000 / 5000)? I know there is is something to do with a chip, but previous Epsons I've had used chips in the cartridge and compatibles were on the market.

Help - I don't want to shell out £35+ everytime I want a complete new set of cartridges. Where are the compatibles?

[Chris]

What's the big obstacle compared with the previous generation (3000 / 4000 / 5000)? I know there is is something to do with a chip, but previous Epsons I've had used chips in the cartridge and compatibles were on the market.

The difference is that Epson went after companies making compatibles and failed (tried to use the DMCA), whereas Canon went after a company and was successful (used patent violation).

Canons chip does not prevent you using refills, CIS or taking the chips of real carts and using them on compatibles. The only thing you lose is the ink level monitor and you have to agree to termination of your warranty.

A non-patent violating chip is said to have been designed but it can't be made at cost effective price due to the small size required.

You can make a CIS for the ip4200 or 5200 by modifiying one designed for an ip4000 or making you own DIY CIS.

[silvermouse]

What's a CIS?

Any more news on the pukka compatibles?

[SVP Communications]

What's a CIS?

Any more news on the pukka compatibles?

CISS is a continuous ink system like this one for the R200:
http://svp.co.uk/products-solo.php?pid=1372

No proper compatibles still. I'm stunned that there still aren't any proper compatibles, but there don't seem to be any

Steve
www.svp.co.uk

[silvermouse]

Just spotted these? Is this the first time consumers have had to remove and install the chips?

http://www.inkmasters.co.uk/acatalog/Canon_Pixma_iP4200_printer_ink_cartridges.html

[zorro]

Nope - its not!

http://www.dvdsale24.de/product_info.php?products_id=90

Full set available here for much cheaper - €17.99 or around £12.20 plus p&p

Compared to the price of £24 from your site ;)

[Mr Twister]

Has anyone tried the chip swap method yet ?

[Wishy]

At 5.99 a cart, you may as well buy originals tbh! None are offering the huge savings you would see on an epson, for example. But then, epsons seem to spend most their ink cleaning their heads and i still had clogs...

[Welshlad]

At 5.99 a cart, you may as well buy originals tbh! None are offering the huge savings you would see on an epson, for example. But then, epsons seem to spend most their ink cleaning their heads and i still had clogs...

Exactly why I'll never buy Epsons again - would rather pay the extra and have reliable ink as with Canon or HP!
Compatbiles would be nice for this tho....

[silvermouse]

Yes I know what you mean about Epsons and head cleaning. I always had Epsons before now and was pleased with the quality, but living in a hot environment caused me to have to clean the heads endlessly for even text print jobs.
I have just returned to the 4200 after it having been left in hot and humid conditions for nearly two months and it printed perfectly first time (no cleaning).
I don't print tons anyway, so will bide my time until proper chipped compatibles appear. If I have to buy some originals I'll just have to grin and bear it.

[Jonny_doe]

Sry guys , but i ended going the CIS route

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Canon-CISS-CIS-Continuous-INK-IP4200-IP5200-MP800-MP830_W0QQitemZ280023402885QQihZ018QQcategoryZ51294QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

£43 delivered ..

Now i just need the replacement ink ,(once this lot runs out )..

[alsemail]

Hi all

I bought one of the new Jettec refill kits for the Pixma 4200 and am very happy with the results, the only problem being you don't get enough black ink. I think the best thing to do is to keep the specific refill for the small photo pigment cartridge and just order a canon black refill for the larger text print cartridge.

Also if any of you want to print Cd/Dvd's to the hub (as the pixma leaves about an 8mm gap) you can. I downloaded Acoustica CD label print (there's a free trial) and it can fix that for you. Costs $21.99.

http://www.acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/

Great Forum bye the way

Al

[Karl]

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[Welshlad]

Any news on chipped compatibles or any compatibles that will actually give you an ink level reading?

[Faythur]

I'd be interested in this too - for my iP5200 which uses the same carts