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Dishy
09-10-2008, 12:54
I have some money that I would like to use to invest in shares especially as the markets are down. I'll be looking at a longer term investment rather than for short term gains. Is it still too risky to buy finance firms shares such as HBOS, RBOS, barclays or do people think that these won't now go under? What other sectors should I be looking at? I've discounted retailers apart from the bigger supermarkets. I am looking at buying shares in the FTSE250 rather than in more volatile markets.
Harsin
09-10-2008, 12:59
Orange juice. I'd stay away from the pork bellies market though.
simion_levi
09-10-2008, 13:04
Are you a council? :suspect:
Island Swing
09-10-2008, 13:07
The big banks are unlikely to go under, major question mark over them is how much the govt will want in return for its funding package. Till thats sorted its gonna be up and down. If you think that markets are likely to go up over the term of your investment you might want to consider some form of index tracker.

Me, I'm in cash in the UK's safest bank.
SFletch
09-10-2008, 13:10
I vowed I would buy a tracker if the market went below 4500.

I had a quick browse yesterday though and the yields seem to be very low. Surely the yield across the FTSE100 ought to be in the region of 5%, no? It really ought to be a little higher now as share prices have dipped and divi's haven't necessarily been cut yet?
Island Swing
09-10-2008, 13:21
current yield on FTSE 100 is 5.25%. Likely they will be quoting historic yield ie was about 3% in Dec.
SFletch
09-10-2008, 13:28
current yield on FTSE 100 is 5.25%. Likely they will be quoting historic yield ie was about 3% in Dec.

which is kind of what I expected.

Why is it then that most trackers (in the ten minutes I've been looking) only yield 2%.

Am I missing something? Obviously they charge circa 1% in fees but they should still yield 4%.
raymondlin
09-10-2008, 13:33
Me, I'm in cash in the UK's safest bank.

which is ?
Island Swing
09-10-2008, 13:34
Hsbc.
SIMON ADEBISI
09-10-2008, 13:57
Orange juice. I'd stay away from the pork bellies market though.

So, are you Randolph or Mortimer?
kmge
09-10-2008, 14:21
Hsbc.

Oh, The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation
Ragnarak
09-10-2008, 14:32
Oh, The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation

Incorporated in the UK, no?
bh1
09-10-2008, 14:39
Pedant fight alert - apples and pears all over the place. :lol:
kmge
09-10-2008, 14:51
Pedant fight alert - apples and pears all over the place. :lol:

Bagsy Apples, I've always liked Apples.

Incorporated in an awful lot of places
bh1
09-10-2008, 14:57
9% Treasury Stock 2012.
Island Swing
09-10-2008, 15:06
Oh, The Hongkong and Shanghai Banking Corporation

Its a British bank :thinking: not even a full dual HK listing now.
nistlerooy
12-10-2008, 08:32
I'll be looking at a longer term investment rather than for short term gains.

I was planning the opposite - buying something volatile that may swing 25% in a day. Any recommendations?
cjanderson
12-10-2008, 08:54
I have some money that I would like to use to invest in shares especially as the markets are down. I'll be looking at a longer term investment rather than for short term gains. Is it still too risky to buy finance firms shares such as HBOS, RBOS, barclays or do people think that these won't now go under? What other sectors should I be looking at? I've discounted retailers apart from the bigger supermarkets. I am looking at buying shares in the FTSE250 rather than in more volatile markets.

NOT ADVICE

i'm currently buying shares that produce dividends. buy 4 a year, £1k in each. they've made about 7% return (and i ignore the drop in value as thats irrelevant to me).

You need about 15 shares min to ensure you are well diversified, first 4 pics were

LLoyds, BT, United Utlities and Dixons (great pick the last one)
this year its Marks and spencers, then this week BP.

You basically pick on yields and do not try and outguess the markets.

/NOT ADVICE
Ricinus
12-10-2008, 17:45
LLoyds, BT, United Utlities and Dixons (great pick the last one)
this year its Marks and spencers, then this week BP.

I know what you are saying but presumably Lloyds won't be paying out much in divis for a while. Particularly if they take up the Government's offer of money and the merger with HBOS.
Mandrill
18-10-2008, 12:28
I have just opened an account with shares ISA with Selftrade I am going to go with regular payment in option.Does anyone have any experiance with this.

I am hoping to just put a bit in a month with the hope of making a little in the long term.
neilalford
20-10-2008, 09:08
I know what you are saying but presumably Lloyds won't be paying out much in divis for a while.

I'd assume not, which is a shame, used to like getting my Lloyds divi as it was one of the ones that actually payed a decent amount.
Ono
03-01-2009, 11:32
Just a quick bump.

Here is is a list of the Stock Market falls during 2008:


2008 - MAJOR MARKET FALLS
New York - down 33.84%
London - down 31.3%
Paris - down 42.7%
Frankfurt - down 40.4%
Mumbai - down 51.9%
Singapore - down 49.2%
Sydney - down 41.3%
Hong Kong - down 48.3%
Shanghai - down 65.2%
Tokyo - down 42.1%

Doesn't make happy reading. I fully expect markets to rise from these depths this year. If it doesn't, we're all in trouble :D