View Full Version : Ms. 45
Matt Sandbrook
20-05-2002, 21:10
Please, please, PLEASE tell me there some kinda DVD release of this film on any region at all? I watched it on Sky Cinema a couple of weeks back at two in the morning and was completely fascinated, I'm becoming worryingly fond of these 'redemption through violence' films :nuts: Are there any other of Abel Ferrara's films that are like this and King of New York?
Cheers!
theblairwitch
20-05-2002, 21:22
Don't <b>think</b> there is.
Remember trawling around for months for this one back in the ole days of VHS - where of course it was renamed "Angel Of Vengeance" d'oh !
Not seen it...
There is a DVD release in Region 1, but it's cut by almost as much as the current British video release is.
When it was first released, Warner put out an uncut version instead. Within a week they realised the mistake and put out the cut version.
The uncut version is available on VHS in Greece and Australia.
Originally posted by Matt Sandbrook
Are there any other of Abel Ferrara's films that are like this and King of New York? 'Bad Lieutenant' - stunning performance from Harvey Kietel. The R1 DVD is bare-bones but uncut, and cheap (around £9) ;)
Originally posted by Joe91
'Bad Lieutenant' - stunning performance from Harvey Kietel. The R1 DVD is bare-bones but uncut, and cheap (around £9) ;)
I've got that DVD - it really is a good little film.
The R1 DVD is visually uncut, but some music has had to have been removed - same on all other versions on video and DVD.
The anamorphic picture is not bad at all.
Channel 4 have the version with the original music on.
DVD Times review here (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/index.cgi?html=y&id=reviews/region1/badlieutenant.html).
DeadKenny
21-05-2002, 01:36
Film 4 shows a lot of Ferrera stuff, though I thought they still changed the music in Bad Leuitenant (though it seemed good anyway). Can't remember if it's spoilt by another M.Kermode "my career is based on cashing in on hype with so called 'extreme' films that aren't" intro.
And of course a lot of Film 4 stuff is anamorphic (just a shame VHS is so pants. Still, maybe if I get Sky+... :D).
Tiffany Bradford
21-05-2002, 07:14
Originally posted by Matt Sandbrook
Please, please, PLEASE tell me there some kinda DVD release of this film on any region at all?
I have the Region 1 Ms.45, and it is indeed cut, but despite the barebones, snap cased release from Image, the non-anamorphic transfer is extremely good.
What has been cut:
Both rape scenes have bits missing, especially the second, and the onscreen murder at the end of the film at the party shoot-out, is now offscreen.
Michael Brooke
21-05-2002, 10:54
Speaking as someone who has both versions of the film - the US DVD (which actually isn't region-coded) and the "accidental" uncut VHS version - I'm happy to confirm that the cuts make no significant difference to the film at all. Indeed, if anything, the rapes are more disturbing through being truncated!
In fact, I didn't even notice that the DVD <U>had</U> been cut when I watched it, despite having seen the uncut version three times beforehand!
Matt Sandbrook
21-05-2002, 22:57
Thanks everyone! Looked around and found it at Movietime for £13.99.
captaineyecatch
22-02-2008, 20:40
Great news - its finally coming out Unrated/Uncut on an official dvd.
Coming out in France March 11th ...
http://schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=688
According to the above it will have an English track.
Great news - its finally coming out Unrated/Uncut on an official dvd.
Coming out in France March 11th ...
http://schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=688
According to the above it will have an English track.
That's FANTASTIC news cap'n eyecatch.. The R1 has been on my wants list for a long time - it's very expensive. Didn't even know it was cut 'till I read this thread.. so bring on the french release!
Aye Captain!
Cracking little flick. I used to have the big old puffy case WB VHS original (sadly cut also).
Gotta get this disc :D
anephric
22-02-2008, 23:53
The uncut German disc that's currently knocking about is a bootleg, isn't it?
captaineyecatch
23-02-2008, 01:51
The uncut German disc that's currently knocking about is a bootleg, isn't it?
I think theres 2 german releases both semi-bootlegs and poor quality etc.
This french release (fingers crossed) should blow them out the water. Must remember to order this and also pick up the unrated Innocent blood dvd.
Moldiver
23-02-2008, 07:57
Great news - its finally coming out Unrated/Uncut on an official dvd.
Coming out in France March 11th ...
http://schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=688
According to the above it will have an English track.
Sweet! Always preferred the French title Angel of Vengeance as well
LordoftheDance
23-02-2008, 10:38
Looking forward to this having never seen it. Good spot, Mr. Catch! :thumbs:
Wanted to see this film for ages. Love the German title: "Der Frau Mit Der 45er Magnum".
A couple of other Ferrara films worth seeing are The Funeral and The Addiction. One's a very intense gangster drama, and the other is a very intense intellectualised/pretentious vampire drama with heavy philosophical overtones. They were/(are?) available as a double pack from Pathe, which was sadly fullscreen.
ralph wiggum
23-02-2008, 18:15
Mmm, Zoë Lund dressed as a Nun :luv:
ralph wiggum
26-02-2008, 14:30
Great news - its finally coming out Unrated/Uncut on an official dvd.
Coming out in France March 11th ...
http://schnittberichte.com/news.php?ID=688
According to the above it will have an English track.
Any idea if this release is likely to have forced / burned in subtitles?
Moldiver
10-03-2008, 18:42
my copy just shipped, so I'll let you know about the subs.
Reminds me that I really should get this framed at some point :D
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/Posters/Europe/ms45.jpg
Veeery nice poster!
Please do btw (let us know about the subs)
ralph wiggum
11-03-2008, 06:03
my copy just shipped, so I'll let you know about the subs.
Where did you order yours from? Just received an email from Amazon France (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=22) & they're having trouble getting it.
Moldiver
11-03-2008, 11:00
Amazon France
blah
holy crap batman! a michael brooke post! so his account never got deleted then
Moldiver
11-03-2008, 11:56
Well, it was posted six years ago :P
Well, it was posted six years ago :P
yes, but if you look at "Tiffany Bradford"'s post - her (presumably) username is not a hyperlink, which would indicate that the account no longer exists, whereas the great opinionated one's is still a live hyperlink
Moldiver
11-03-2008, 12:18
perhaps it was re-instated. He does still contibute reviews to the main site on very rare ocassions.
ralph wiggum
11-03-2008, 13:14
That's a bit frustrating Moldiver, I ordered mine from Amazon France (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=22) too. Perhaps it's because I used the cheapskate shipping :D, did you use the more expensive shipping option?
Moldiver
11-03-2008, 13:21
No I used standard as well. When did you place your order? I placed mine pretty much as soon as I saw the announcement here. Wouldn't have expected it to sell out quite so fast.
ralph wiggum
11-03-2008, 13:30
Didn't place my order until about 10 days ago, so guess I'm just bottom of the queue. Can't think of any other French etailers I've used before. :shrug:
anephric
12-03-2008, 06:48
In stock here, same price (http://www.alapage.com/-/Fiche/DVDVideo/965372/DVD/l-ange-de-la-vengeance-version-integrale-abel-ferrara.htm?fulltext=l'ange&id=80381205304281&donnee_appel=GOOGL). Shipping will be a bit more, though.
ralph wiggum
12-03-2008, 11:29
In stock here, same price (http://www.alapage.com/-/Fiche/DVDVideo/965372/DVD/l-ange-de-la-vengeance-version-integrale-abel-ferrara.htm?fulltext=l'ange&id=80381205304281&donnee_appel=GOOGL). Shipping will be a bit more, though.
Thanks, haven't heard of them before, have you ever used them?
anephric
12-03-2008, 13:08
Yep. They're good, fast and reliable. Not the cheapest, mind.
Moldiver
17-03-2008, 13:16
Alright chaps. My copy arrived this morning. Had a quick check, will watch in full tonight. Appears uncut to my eyes though - run time is 1.17:39. Transfer is very nice; some edge enhancement and minor aliasing, but overall nice colour balance and detail - progressive as well. Sound options are French and English mono and English 5.1. French subtitles are optional, so it's good news all round :) Here are some screen grabs:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/ms451-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/ms452-1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/ms453.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/ms454.jpg
ralph wiggum
17-03-2008, 15:08
Alright chaps. My copy arrived this morning. Had a quick check, will watch in full tonight. Appears uncut to my eyes though - run time is 1.17:39. Transfer is very nice; some edge enhancement and minor aliasing, but overall nice colour balance and detail - progressive as well. Sound options are French and English mono and English 5.1. French subtitles are optional, so it's good news all round :) Here are some screen grabs:
Very good news, thanks Moldiver :thumbs:
Mine shipped from alapage on Friday (thanks for that anephric :)), so will hopefully be with me soon.
Amazon just shipped mine :eek: :D
And it arrived yesterday. Nice disc, I'm very pleased with it :)
Moldiver
17-04-2008, 12:44
Crikey, that took a long time.
I'm just pleased I got it :)
But, yeah, it did take a while.
vBulletin® v3.7.0, Copyright ©2000-2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.