View Full Version : Duel - What's Happening?
spearce8
08-07-2002, 19:24
I was just about to order this Classic when I was told to wait, as the current release is the TV release, and they're currently working on the theatrical release, (which includes 4 extra scenes apparently) is this true, should I wait?
Some sites I've come across you can buy the current version, others have the Film down for a September release, which kind of backs up the theory of a New release, I guess.
Many Thanks.
The film was 'made for tv'. It is 4:3. However when released in Europe, they matted it to widescreen.
It was meant to come out a few months ago (widescreen) but got pulled. Should be out in a few months.
Any updates on what is happening with this? I had it on order with dvdboxoffice who had it down for a 30th July release, and it no longer has "coming soon" against it on their site and my order has gone from red to green. I don't know if this means they have it in stock or if its just the way their computers system is configured as the current date is after the release date, doesn't seem to be much about it on other sites though.
Yonathan Gal
30-07-2002, 22:35
Yeah, I was wondering about this title aswell hope they release it soon, I'd definitely get it!
spearce8
24-02-2003, 19:29
Been a while now, anyone know what the latest is? :)
Not heard anything about this great Spielberg getting a release :( ... edit - altho see the old [Aug 28, 2002] bit of news from dvdfile.com below...
Luckily, I recorded it to DVD when it was shown on TV a while back - but it would be nice to have a decent release fairly soon :)
'Duel' of the fates - 12:08am
Amid high expectations and much anticipation, Steven Spielberg's acclaimed early telefilm Duel was all set to be released on DVD late last May, and then...poof! Off the schedule with nary a peep since. As Spielberg fans are painfully aware, postponements of Spielberg titles are all-too-common on DVD, and it was a case of deja vu all over again. So, what happened?
According to sources at both Universal and Amblin, it seems a last-minute approval from Mr. Spielberg himself was never granted, so the release was pulled from the schedule. However, the title has not be shelved permanently, and is now planned for release sometime in 2003. Features are expected to include all that was previously announced, including the highly-anticipated new Laurent Bouzereau-produced documentary on the making of the film. Stay tuned...
2003 - I'll believe it when I see it :norty: ;)
spearce8
22-04-2003, 09:18
Aug 12 :clap:
http://www.dvdfile.com (http://www.dvdfile.com/software/dvd-video/archive/2003/04_22.html)
Ordered a year ago from Play (actually 19/04/2002 :dork: )
still on order, c' mon Universal dont let us down (yet) again.
DeadKenny
22-04-2003, 15:37
Still down as anamorphic 1.85:1 though I see. As it was never designed for that, it makes you wonder if that's really the best option :suspect:
Michael Brooke
22-04-2003, 16:35
Agreed - the only reason it was shown in widescreen in Europe was that by the early 1970s most cinemas simply couldn't show 4:3 any more. I once had the deeply unpleasant experience of seeing a "widescreen" <I>Casablanca</I> for a similar reason!
I'd find it very hard to believe that a film specifically made for television would be improved by being cropped like this - and I strongly suspect that even the "widescreen" version would have been no more than 1.66:1 (i.e. standard European widescreen), so if the transfer is indeed 1.85:1 you're losing even more of the picture.
Still, if Spielberg is involved I assume he'll also dictate the aspect ratio - he's known to be a stickler for this sort of thing.
Yonathan Gal
22-04-2003, 17:02
cool, stil wanna get this one, so is defintely august now>?
John Hodson
22-04-2003, 18:35
According to the hometheaterforum it's definitely August 12 and it's definitely 4:3.
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So many films, so little time...
spearce8
11-06-2003, 11:46
Is it just an R1 Release
Only Moivetyme (http://www.*********.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=15756) have it for £9.99 inc Del
John Hodson
11-06-2003, 11:59
Nice price and a good spot; you might want to chuck that into the bargain forum for the benefit of the huddled masses ;)
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So many films, so little time...
John Hodson
19-06-2003, 21:45
davisdvd.com have posted new cover art for this release here (http://www.davisdvd.com/images/covers/duel_lg.jpg) .
Fullscreen, DD 5.1, DTS 5.1, DD 2.0 Mono. Extras TBA.
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So many films, so little time...
rainbird
20-06-2003, 10:23
>even the "widescreen" version would have been no more than 1.66:1 (i.e. standard European widescreen), so if the transfer is indeed 1.85:1 you're losing even more of the picture.
And gaining things. There's an old anecdote I once read about how Spielberg actually shows up in 'Duel' (unintentionally) in the back of Dennis Weaver's car! The 4:3 image meant that he was never seen by TV viewers but apparently he's visible in the theatrical version. Don't know the exact shot but if it is the theatrical version they are releasing then it should give the fans something to look out for
;)
*Tiffany*
20-06-2003, 11:19
Originally posted by John Hodson
davisdvd.com have posted new cover art for this release here (http://www.davisdvd.com/images/covers/duel_lg.jpg) .
I :luv: the cover - it is one of my favourite films - but then, I like the whole road rage/psycho trucker/innocent motorists sub-genre anyway :nuts:
Originally posted by rainbird
>There's an old anecdote I once read about how Spielberg actually shows up in 'Duel' (unintentionally) in the back of Dennis Weaver's car!
If you wanna see Speilberg in Duel, go to the bit where Dennis Weaver is ringing the police, just before the truck smashes all the
snake cases etc. The first shot where he's ringing the cops, you can see Speilberg in the reflection of the phone booth glass, he has a Hawaian style shirt on.
Its unmistakeable. :dork:
.... but I'm sure you all know this :D
Mr_Hamelfarm
20-06-2003, 11:45
Originally posted by papalaz
If you wanna see Speilberg in Duel, go to the bit where Dennis Weaver is ringing the police, just before the truck smashes all the
snake cases etc. The first shot where he's ringing the cops, you can see Speilberg in the reflection of the phone booth glass, he has a Hawaian style shirt on.
Its unmistakeable. :dork:
.... but I'm sure you all know this :D
He can also be seen in the left hand wing mirror on the widescreen version.
DeadKenny
20-06-2003, 14:13
Hmm, I can't see how these "widescreen" versions gain anything. The full frame was used for TV (it's a TV movie!). Widescreen prints would have been a crop. This is way before the days of Super35 so there's no "lose a little, gain a little".
I wonder how many of these anecdotes are actually verified :suspect:.
Anyway, it appears to be confirmed (from the cover scans) that the disc is actually 4:3 full-frame (as originally shot), not widescreen as originally rumoured.
£9.99 by the way... http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=199433 :D
Anyone know if this is going to get an R2 release at all?:confused:
Michael Brooke
21-06-2003, 20:12
Originally posted by DeadKenny
Hmm, I can't see how these "widescreen" versions gain anything. The full frame was used for TV (it's a TV movie!). Widescreen prints would have been a crop. This is way before the days of Super35 so there's no "lose a little, gain a little".
The only way the anecdote would make sense is if Spielberg shot the film in matted 1.85:1 and then cropped it to 4:3 for TV screenings... but that makes absolutely no sense!
rainbird
23-06-2003, 13:07
Originally posted by rainbird
>There's an old anecdote I once read about how Spielberg actually shows up in 'Duel'
Originally posted by DeadKenny
>I wonder how many of these anecdotes are actually verified
The anecdote came from Spielberg himself as I discovered after browsing through some back issues the other night. From Starburst magazine. Issue #53, 1982. 'The Steven Spielberg Story Part One' by Tony Crawley:
During the director's interview session at the NFT in 1978, a keen-eyed buff asked about the alien in the back seat of Weaver's car. 'I've been waiting six years to meet you,' yelled Spielberg. 'You've got good eyes. That's me in the back seat!'
Originally posted by Michael Brooke
>The only way the anecdote would make sense is if Spielberg shot the film in matted 1.85:1 and then cropped it to 4:3 for TV screenings...
Er, no...for the (simple) answer back to the Starburst feature:
On TV, he was framed out of sight by the 1.33:1 television aspect ratio: he'd never noticed himself in rushes or when cutting the film - 'you lose a few millimetres on both sides of the screen on a movieola.' Having cut and dubbed the film - 'I was certainly very happy with it' - he ran it once in the cinema widescreen 1.85:1 ratio and caught himself in the back seat, giving Weaver directions. He didn't think anyone noticed him (it's a split second or two on screen) and it was too late to change anything. Besides, for television, he was out of the scene. 'If I was really a dedicated filmaker, I would've blown those shots up once the film was going to Europe in 1.85:1. But if there's something I hate more than seeing myself in a movie, it's seeing grain on screen. I just let it go ... and not many people have picked up on that.'
During the interview Spielberg also adds the following comments on the differences between the original TV Movie and the European theatrical release of 'Duel': He would also have kept Weaver's screen wife (Jacqueline Scott) right out of the picture. 'You see her once in the cinema print - a phone conversation from her end. A major mistake! I don't know why I shot it. But when C.I.C. wanted to release the film, they had to have 90 minutes not 74. I shot all the added 15 minutes but C.I.C. demanded to see Weaver's life on the other end of the telephone. I guess I was so enthusiastic about getting the film seen in the 1.85:1 ratio that I went ahead and shot the sequence which the producer, George Eckstein, had written. To this day, I don't think Weaver's character needed that kind of lead-pipe overkill!'
So in light of Spielberg's comments if we do indeed get the 4:3 TV Movie over the theatrical version then that's his preferred version. Presumably the extra footage shot for the theatrical version will be present in the form of deleted scenes. Having seen both versions over the years I much prefer the TV Movie. The extra scenes in the 'movie' are dull, talky and add nothing to the suspense other than to pad out the film's run time.
Rainfall
25-07-2003, 09:03
Not long now 12th Aug;) I've wanted this on dvd for years....
cheers Steve
sidebog7
25-07-2003, 11:47
Or maybe not :( :
HTF (http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151630)
DeadKenny
25-07-2003, 11:53
:mad: :mad:
God damn it!! (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/index.cgi?page=News&id=4878) :mad: :mad: :oh-hum:
spearce8
25-07-2003, 14:57
What's the excuse this time? :mad: :mad:
The plot thickens;
********* have the disc in stock, and a browse through DVDS Limited site suggests that the dvds just released will be a limited batch and that the film will become unavailable again...:suspect:
DeadKenny
30-07-2003, 21:39
Originally posted by rainbird
Originally posted by DeadKenny
>I wonder how many of these anecdotes are actually verified
The anecdote came from Spielberg himself as I discovered after browsing through some back issues the other night. From Starburst magazine. Issue #53, 1982. 'The Steven Spielberg Story Part One' by Tony Crawley:
Forgot to reply to this a while back but...
I was referring to the anecdotes about widescreen versions showing more than full-screen, specifically...
And gaining things. There's an old anecdote I once read about how Spielberg actually shows up in 'Duel' (unintentionally) in the back of Dennis Weaver's car! The 4:3 image meant that he was never seen by TV viewers but apparently he's visible in the theatrical version. Don't know the exact shot but if it is the theatrical version they are releasing then it should give the fans something to look out for
and
He can also be seen in the left hand wing mirror on the widescreen version.
So mixed anecdotes really.
;)
As for...
On TV, he was framed out of sight by the 1.33:1 television aspect ratio: he'd never noticed himself in rushes or when cutting the film - 'you lose a few millimetres on both sides of the screen on a movieola.'
Well, given that back in 1982 we all had heavily curved 4:3 TV sets that overscanned something cronic, I'm not surprised people didn't see it. However that doesn't mean it's not present in the 4:3 print. Spielberg appears to just be referring in his interview to the fact he only first noticed it on the 1.85:1 print.
Given todays flat screen TVs, and especially projectors, computer monitors and LCDs, you're likely to see more of the 4:3 frame, so it's not certain that the widescreen version will have "extra" that the 4:3 does not.
Besides that though, I believe people have seen these on TV and VHS versions. I can't say myself because it's a long time since I've seen it and I never noticed it myself (I wasn't looking for it).
However, that's not to say Spielberg hasn't decided to "correct" it for the DVD (would be a shame if he did).
Rainfall
31-07-2003, 00:29
Originally posted by Malick
The plot thickens;
********* have the disc in stock, and a browse through DVDS Limited site suggests that the dvds just released will be a limited batch and that the film will become unavailable again...:suspect:
I have just checked and it now says in stock the 12th Aug!!
I had this in my shopping cart @ DV-Depot for about a year, they have just canX this and said they have no idea when it will be in stock,
cheers Steve
essexboyuk68
31-07-2003, 01:48
Originally posted by Rainfall
I have just checked and it now says in stock the 12th Aug!!
actually it says due on 12th august cos that was the date it was due to be released...
But it's also listed on the homepage as "just arrived" which apparently it has....
They won't be about for long though I don't imagine! :nuts:
spearce8
31-07-2003, 09:16
Originally posted by Malick
The plot thickens;
********* have the disc in stock, and a browse through DVDS Limited site suggests that the dvds just released will be a limited batch and that the film will become unavailable again...:suspect:
Funny that, tried to cancel it, knowing it wasn't goner get released, got a response from ********* saying they have it in stock, and it's ready for the 12 Aug release :confused:
Don't know who to believe. :suspect:
I got an e-mail from the Disc Emporium telling me they are shipping limited numbers this weekend for delivery next Tuesday!:confused: I'll confirm this then.
Barney_Tabasco
31-07-2003, 11:41
I just got an unprompted email from ********* saying my order is being processed!
Rainfall
31-07-2003, 11:47
Originally posted by albertz
I got an e-mail from the Disc Emporium telling me they are shipping limited numbers this weekend for delivery next Tuesday!:confused: I'll confirm this then.
YGM albertz
I've just spoken to Disc Emporium and was told limited stock arriving this weekend, and its deleted!!! I had to order a copy, so I should receive it Wednesday latest. I know its cost a few pounds more, but I have wanted this on DVD for years and its one for my collection. Or maybe for e.bay;)
cheers Steve
Barney_Tabasco
31-07-2003, 11:52
I see the price has suddenly shot up :nono:
Originally posted by Barney_Tabasco
I just got an unprompted email from ********* saying my order is being processed!
I've just emailed them and they said they've still got a few copies left :) , so I've ordered from them and cancelled my Play247 order.
Why would the studios cancel it again? Is there something else out at a similar time that they think will steal the limelight, or are they deliberately trying to raise the profile of it by making it hard to find?
HenryKrinkle
01-08-2003, 11:52
Anyone's Duel shipped yet??
Scarface
01-08-2003, 12:09
Hi there
Ordered mine yesterday from DvdPacific.com and shipped last night.:D
Tony
spearce8
01-08-2003, 12:58
Anyone know the exact number of copies available.
HenryKrinkle
01-08-2003, 13:19
800
DeadKenny
01-08-2003, 14:12
Seems odd.
I wonder if they started pressing the discs and have screwed up, so they're releasing the current batch and then fixing it before the next.
Hope these versions aren't another BTTF ;)
R4 pre-order here by the way...
http://www.dvdorchard.com.au/product.asp?PND=103438
Originally posted by Scarface
Hi there
Ordered mine yesterday from DvdPacific.com and shipped last night.:D
Tony
Pacific have put this line on 'Duel'... was it there when you ordered it ?
THIS TITLE RECALLED! THERE IS NOW NO NEW STREET DATE
Fred2002
01-08-2003, 23:17
So lets sum this mess up....
The disc is scheduled for release, then it is pressed and sent out only to be cancelled for some as yet unexplained reason but not before some retailers have already sent some out.
What the hell is going on? There seems to have been an almighty balls up somewhere!
The studio need to release a statement ASAP to explain this!
This is going to make the Living Daylights farce look like like a mere oversight.... WHat prices are the few going to fetch on Ebay dare I wonder.
If anyone does receive a copy, please find out what is wrong with it!
How hard can it be to get a bloody TV movie onto DVD :brickwall:
This is begining to **** me off now, I thought play would be shipping on 12th Auguist but now its TBA again
Aggghhhhh!!!! :mad:
Amazon have stock of it.. £15 all in delivered, showing as ships within 24 hrs.
Whats all the fuss ?
Ordered this just now from Amazon, just to see what happens! I'm a bit sceptical though -- if Amazon haven't updated their details then it would say it was ready for shipment today wouldn't it?
mines just gone to 'Shipping Soon'
HenryKrinkle
04-08-2003, 12:02
Well, just got an e-mail from ********* telling me it will be shipping shortly...this is very strange!
...I will adopt the 'believe it when I see it' approach for the moment ;)
EDIT...amazon.ca are now showing it with a release date of Febuary 1st 2004!!!
DeadKenny
04-08-2003, 12:07
I'd order it but I'm concerned about there being a fault with it which would mean having to return it (like with BTTF).
Anyway, I'm holding out for a R2/R4.
U wont have any probs selling it once stock dries up !
HenryKrinkle
04-08-2003, 12:11
It seems Enterprise have wasted no time in hiking the price up from £12.99 to £19.99:rolleyes: :oh-hum:
...this could be a rare title...get it :thumbs:
:nuts: Oh deary me (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3340413474&category=301) :norty:
HenryKrinkle
04-08-2003, 12:29
...or, much more reasonably (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3339672240&category=2289) ;)
Barney_Tabasco
04-08-2003, 12:54
Anybody want mine for £100? :D
Rainfall
04-08-2003, 13:09
Originally posted by DeadKenny
I'd order it but I'm concerned about there being a fault with it which would mean having to return it (like with BTTF).
Please don't say this:( I hope not....I'll let you know what its like if the copy I orderd arrives this week,
cheers Steve
I saw this in the cinema store in london yesturday for £24.99
so it is out there somewhere:thumbs:
danielzavitz
04-08-2003, 13:22
ah well i've ordered from amazon and we'll see what happens.
fingers crossed now that it ships (and then it is discovered that it's a rights issue and the dvd isn't to be released for another 10 years mauahahaha)
spearce8
04-08-2003, 13:27
Mines just been Shipped :nuts: :clap:
HenryKrinkle
04-08-2003, 13:30
Where from?
spearce8
04-08-2003, 13:35
********* :notworthy placed the order early Jun, tried to cancel last wk after learning of it being pulled, they replied, "saying they have em in stock, and they were just waiting dispatch" :D
essexboyuk68
04-08-2003, 13:44
********* have stated they are now sold out.
DeadKenny
04-08-2003, 13:46
Originally posted by indiana
I saw this in the cinema store in london yesturday for £24.99
Makes me laugh that place. Still someone has to pay their prices :lol: (D'oh! I used to back in VHS days, but then import stuff was more difficult to find then :()
SithLordSi
04-08-2003, 14:09
Well, ********* have just shipped my copy. And because I pre-ordered it a while ago, it only cost me £10!
Initial reports suggest that the disc has no defects whatsoever, and sports an excellent transfer and tastefully done new sound-mix. Not sure about the extras yet, but it's really the film that I'm after. Oh, and it is the 90 minute version.
My copy is now in transit from Disc Emporium. I expect it wed./thurs.
spearce8
04-08-2003, 14:13
Originally posted by SithLordSi
Well, ********* have just shipped my copy. And because I pre-ordered it a while ago, it only cost me £10!
Initial reports suggest that the disc has no defects whatsoever, and sports an excellent transfer and tastefully done new sound-mix. Not sure about the extras yet, but it's really the film that I'm after. Oh, and it is the 90 minute version.
My was Pre-ordered to at £10 :clap:
If those "Initial reports" as you put it are right, then can you explain why they pulled it , :confused:
Pork Chop Express
04-08-2003, 14:33
I got mine on Saturday from DVDs Limited the transfer is exceptional.
DeadKenny
04-08-2003, 14:38
One thought... being a TV movie. Is this a 24fps source or 30fps NTSC source?
I would assume as it had a theatrical run it was shot on film, therefore 24fps?
alanmg1200
04-08-2003, 14:50
My copy has shipped from *********.
essexboyuk68
04-08-2003, 14:55
mine too :D
And mine. I transferred the order to ********* from Play247 a few days ago thanks to this thread - it looks like I got one of the last ones :)
spearce8
04-08-2003, 15:17
What about those ones already up on Ebay, anyone reckon they'll get the min £70 asked :D
Panavision
04-08-2003, 15:43
If I sell mine, I certainly won't be ripping anyone off by 70 quid!! :lol:
GrossePointeJack
04-08-2003, 17:06
Woohoo - mine shipped today, but for some reason I'm still waiting on 1942.
Just got this fom Play
"Dear Sir / Madame
We regret to inform you that the title 'Duel' that you ordered with us is no longer going to be released by the studio. We have cancelled your order for it and you have not been charged.
Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience this has caused you.
Kind regards
Play
"
:brickwall
Oh-oh -- Amazon.com now lists this as "currently not available".
My order, placed at lunchtime today, is at "shipping soon" status but somehow I don't think I'll breathe a sigh of relief until it actually ships!
DeadKenny
04-08-2003, 18:32
http://www.dv-depot.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=125627
Available 2010-10-10
Holy crap... 2010!
:eek:
Most places are saying it's recalled or unavailable now. There must be something wrong with the existing ones released. Maybe framing or something :confused:
********************* lists a few places that don't mention it's withdrawn yet, though some are just pre-orders.
spearce8
04-08-2003, 18:47
I've asked before. I'll ask again, WHY????
:)
DeadKenny
04-08-2003, 18:50
Maybe his mate George has told him he should do a CGI remaster and make people wait 5 more years for the DVD :D. There aren't any guns in it perhaps? Maybe he's busy editing them out as we speak ;)
Originally posted by DeadKenny
Maybe his mate George has told him he should do a CGI remaster
Please... don't even joke about the possibility :oh-hum:
s anyone tried to contact Universal about this? I went to the "contact us" section of their website, but it just sent me to an FAQ page.
danielzavitz
04-08-2003, 20:53
maybe it's a fullscreen / widescreen arguement raging behind the scenes, which is the dvd, and which is speilbergs preferred ratio. it was a tv movie in america hence 4:3 and theatrically exibited in europe so 1.85:1. maybe they can't agree which it should be.
Originally posted by danielzavitz
maybe it's a fullscreen / widescreen arguement raging behind the scenes, which is the dvd, and which is speilbergs preferred ratio. it was a tv movie in america hence 4:3 and theatrically exibited in europe so 1.85:1. maybe they can't agree which it should be.
I would have thought with Speilberg's clout it would be a case of
he says... they do...
surely they could stick both on, one on each side?
anyway Universal/Speilberg whoever's bloody running things
RELEASE IT!!!! :mad: :brickwall :mad: :brickwall
Panavision
04-08-2003, 21:16
Might be a legal issue. I highly doubt it's an Aspect Ratio issue.
spearce8
05-08-2003, 07:48
Guess what just landed on my doormat, only shipped Yesterday :clap: 1.33:1 Full Frame, not goner open though, not just yet, anyway :norty:
Mine arrived this morning! :) It's definitely the 4:3 version as I tried it out this morning just before I left for work. Unfortunately the run time is 90 minutes (confirmed by my player) - isn't the original 70 minutes long, with an inferior theatrical version that's padded out to 90 mins with unnecessary scenes?
Rainfall
05-08-2003, 08:40
Originally posted by spearce8
not goner open though, not just yet, anyway :norty:
E.bay ???? maybe
Depending whats on the "new" one, this copy might be worth holding onto for a while yet..unless that copy on e.bay sells for £70
cheers Steve;)
HenryKrinkle
05-08-2003, 09:42
Mine's shipped...only ordered on Friday:clap:
...I think I better open my copy as soon as I get it, I can feel a Walt Disney Treasures type 'daren't open it, it could be worth a fortune' scenario here :oh-hum: :lol:
brunny78
05-08-2003, 11:19
it could be worth a fortune' scenario here :oh-hum: :lol:
i hope so, but i doubt it. it'll probably be released properly within a couple of months once the universal beaurocracy which is holding it up is ironed out. that said, you never know what some mugs, cough...ebay customers, are prepared to pay.
danielzavitz
05-08-2003, 11:25
i don't know much about duels history but if it is a padded out theatrical version, even though it's full frame, then maybe the beard wants it trimmed back to its original length. if that happens then this version could be worth a bit.
mine hasn't shipped from amazon yet, doesn't look likely at this point.
edit - my order is being prepared for shipment and cannot be changed!!!!! yay!!!!!
DeadKenny
05-08-2003, 11:41
Anyone tried these?...
http://www.dvdconcept.com/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=17092
http://www.dvdboxoffice.com/description.asp?pid=90040310
http://www.store4dvd.com/index.php?action=viewitem&pid=025192197628
None of them say it's withdrawn, though they're all pre-orders.
I wonder if the withdrawal is limited to the US version as it seems a few canadian stores aren't mentioning anything (though Amazon.ca does)? Would getting the Canadian (french language cover?) be worth less? http://www.deadkenny.co.uk/images/smiley/nixweiss.gif
Maybe this has already been established but I don't think we need look any further for an explanation of Duel's current delay than the recent death of Dennis Weaver's daughter-in-law (and indeed, more specifically, the nature of the tragic accident).
Universal probably didn't feel an actual explanation was tasteful, if this was the reason. That doesn't explain why some copies have been sent out admittedly, but if the cancellation was low-key then perhaps it wasn't something they felt the need to be too strict about and it was too late in the day to withdraw them all.
I think this will be back on the schedule very soon.
DeadKenny
05-08-2003, 12:30
Originally posted by Dene
Maybe this has already been established but I don't think we need look any further for an explanation of Duel's current delay than the recent death of Dennis Weaver's daughter-in-law (and indeed, more specifically, the nature of the tragic accident).
Universal probably didn't feel an actual explanation was tasteful, if this was the reason. That doesn't explain why some copies have been sent out admittedly, but if the cancellation was low-key then perhaps it wasn't something they felt the need to be too strict about and it was too late in the day to withdraw them all.
I think this will be back on the schedule very soon.
Cheers. Didn't realise that.
P.S. Amazon.ca say Feb 2004 now! :(
still available at Disc Emporium, albeit £18, but not a lot considering nowheres got any left.
Oh and, was there an insert with it ? Mines got none.
I think thats becomming the norm with Universal titles.
alanmg1200
06-08-2003, 09:01
Originally posted by raptor
Oh and, was there an insert with it ? Mines got none.
I think thats becomming the norm with Universal titles.
No insert with mine either.
Rainfall
06-08-2003, 09:18
Originally posted by raptor
still available at Disc Emporium, albeit £18, but not a lot considering nowheres got any left.
My copy as just arrived from Disc Emporium:) £17.99 isn't a bad price is it folks?
I was surprised it was posted "recorded" delivery, I don't know of any other company that does this, maybe they could use 1st class and knock 63p off the price, or at least offer the buyer the option!
cheers Steve
danielzavitz
06-08-2003, 09:30
i've ordered from disc emporium then as amazon have cancelled my order, despite it entering the shipping phase where the order couldn't be changed.:mad:
Originally posted by Rainfall
My copy as just arrived from Disc Emporium:) £17.99 isn't a bad price is it folks?
Only when I say I got mine from ********* for £9.99 :lol:
spearce8
06-08-2003, 09:58
Originally posted by Andy
Only when I say I got mine from ********* for £9.99 :lol:
Me to :lol: :lol:
HTF are now talking about a sync problem on the DTS track -- could any of the fortunate individuals currently in possession of the disc confirm or deny this?
Originally posted by stephen
Mine arrived this morning! :) It's definitely the 4:3 version as I tried it out this morning just before I left for work. Unfortunately the run time is 90 minutes (confirmed by my player) - isn't the original 70 minutes long, with an inferior theatrical version that's padded out to 90 mins with unnecessary scenes? From the review here (http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=2&p=info&c=809) This cut of the film is the European theatrical cut and is around 90 minutes whereas the original TV cut of the film lasted for 74 minutes. I would have liked the option to see both on this DVD instead of only being able to see the longer (and what I believe is regarded as worse) theatrical cut.
It also has this to say about the transfer:The print is aged and dirty. Colours are washed out at times but retain some vibrancy visible on the reds of the car and blues of the sky. There are a lot of artefacts present on the print and overall the picture is quite soft. This is not pretty at all. :(
HenryKrinkle
08-08-2003, 09:30
:( ...mine's still shrink-wrapped, time to off-load I fear :oh-hum:
danielzavitz
08-08-2003, 11:08
there's a copy on ebay for £62 and another for £50, both with some time to go.
says out 12th Aug. at futureent its £11.99
The 90 minute version is un-neccesarily flabby compared to the original cut- I'll be giving this a miss... :(
drush9999
08-08-2003, 11:43
Got mine from *********.
Excellent picture and sound, best it's ever looked on home video.:clap:
And the 90min version is the only version I've ever seen and is definitely not 'flabby'
Is the original available anywhere? I think I've only ever seen the padded version.
alanmg1200
08-08-2003, 12:09
Yep same here.:thumbs:
Panavision
08-08-2003, 21:20
No DTS synch probs on my Tosh 100 :thumbs: Picture was very good for a TV film :thumbs:
Aah what to do open it or keep it sealed?.
Has there been official word yet from Universal as to why they canned it?
Aardvark
09-08-2003, 12:36
Watched it last night.
For a 30 year old TV movie I thought it looked great.
Didn't spot any synch problems.
Richard Matheson interview interesting. Didn't realise he'd written it! (He's a bit of a one-man cult industry: Omega Man, Incredible Shrinking Man, House Of Usher, Pit & The Pendulum, Duel, Twilight Zone - Nightmare At 20,000ft, Night Gallery. Christ, he even wrote an episode of the original Star Trek!)
GrossePointeJack
09-08-2003, 13:09
What the hell is up with that review - The picture looks fantastic, moreso considering the source. As for the running time, well people would feel cheated if only the original cut was made availible rather than this 90 minute one (which is better - It features the fantastic railroad scene for a start).
Originally posted by GrossePointeJack
(which is better - It features the fantastic railroad scene for a start).
Could you elaborate a bit. I don't recall seeing that before which'd mean i've not seen this cut of the movie which in turn means i'd open that bad boy up in a second. :D
********* are listing again for pre-order - 31st Dec 2003?
FFS & double FFS :gag: :|
I've followed this release for what seems like forever - and just the time a few slip into the market, I miss out :mad: :( :(
Don't suppose anywhere is still shipping now are they?
Juggler
Originally posted by Juggler
FFS & double FFS :gag: :|
Don't suppose anywhere is still shipping now are they?
Juggler
Check at Disc Emporium, I think they still have it... albeit at £21.
But 2 went for £60 each recently on EBay.
Rainfall
11-08-2003, 21:35
Originally posted by Juggler
FFS & double FFS :gag: :|
I've followed this release for what seems like forever - and just the time a few slip into the market, I miss out :mad: :( :(
Don't suppose anywhere is still shipping now are they?
Juggler
Juggler don't ********* have it in stock still? they are the cheapest. I got a copy from Disc Emporium for £17.99 they were still in stock last week, why not call them tomorrow.
If not there are some om e.bay but I think they are selling for an high price...
cheers Steve
danielzavitz
11-08-2003, 21:39
********* put everything on preorder for the 31st dec until they have an actual date, so don't count on it being out by then.
I had a copy on order with *********, ordered on Aug 01, it shipped on Aug 11.
It's quicker to get stuff from DVD Pacific in the States at the moment... although they dont have any copies of 'Duel'
Got mine last week - great film regardless of its collectability theres no way I'm selling mine - I just like the film always have.
Noticed a few being sold/traded on the forums with some traders wanting quite a lot for it.
I can understand people trading newer stuff they might not have seen, but come on I don't believe for a second these people haven' t seen it - so it's 'rare status' ignored for the moment, surely if you're gonna buy this film it's for keep and not trade. I mean surely you're gonna know if this film is a keeper or not before you order it, so to trade this sort of film on now makes no sense to me at all.
Got mine last week - great film regardless of its collectability theres no way I'm selling mine - I just like the film always have.
Andy - do yourself a favour sell it then buy again when reissued, no doubt with some improvement. I am sure u can live without the film for 6 months for 50 quid or whatever its going for to these loonies on ebay.
:)
Well lookie here, just a quick update :D
Managed to obtain this through.. lets say a "friend of a friend" :)
http://www.jaydavis.co.uk/ocuk/sealed_small.jpg
http://www.jaydavis.co.uk/ocuk/opendvd_small.jpg
I didn't pay the crazy prices on auction sites either :clap:
So pleased with it! Just flicking through to find Spielbergs unintentional cameo(s) and will then take a peek at the extra bits & pieces!!
Now all that's needed is a decent release of Spielbergs 'missing' DVDs.. namely The Sugarland Express and Schindler's List to complete the collection (http://www.jaydavis.co.uk/dvdcollection.htm)!
Juggler
Panavision
08-10-2003, 14:30
Just think, only, say 200 people own Duel on DVD :D
Originally posted by Panavision
Just think, only, say 200 people own Duel on DVD :D
5 of whom were courtesy of myself & E Bay. :p
DeadKenny
08-10-2003, 15:18
Just think... they'll be worthless when Duel is released properly :p
welshmatt
08-10-2003, 15:27
Originally posted by Juggler
Well lookie here, just a quick update :D
Managed to obtain this through.. lets say a "friend of a friend" :)
http://www.jaydavis.co.uk/ocuk/sealed_small.jpg
http://www.jaydavis.co.uk/ocuk/opendvd_small.jpg
I didn't pay the crazy prices on auction sites either :clap:
So pleased with it! Just flicking through to find Spielbergs unintentional cameo(s) and will then take a peek at the extra bits & pieces!!
Now all that's needed is a decent release of Spielbergs 'missing' DVDs.. namely The Sugarland Express and Schindler's List to complete the collection (http://www.jaydavis.co.uk/dvdcollection.htm)!
Juggler
You opened it:cuckoo: :dork: :D
spearce8
08-10-2003, 15:40
I sold a Copy on E-Bay for £50 :D got a RW though :norty:
Just had a look and there's only one up for sale, £50 with 6 Days left :| guess I could of waited a little bit, anyway it's out soon........again :D
Originally posted by welshmatt
You opened it:cuckoo: :dork: :D
My copy is the only DVD i have not opened yet. Looks a bit silly with my other DVDs, i'm sure they pick on it when i'm not around.
Only 200 people to own a copy? i would have thought it was more than that.
We should do a poll on here just to gauge a figure.
danielzavitz
08-10-2003, 17:07
i got 2, and sold one to a mate for £18 - what i paid for it
:P
DVD-R versions will be flooding eBay shortly thanks to newsgroups.
Captain_Chaos
08-10-2003, 19:36
How can someone make such huge cockups with titles like Duel, if I made huge errors like Universal seem to do, i'd loose my job.
John Hodson
08-10-2003, 19:44
Originally posted by Captain_Chaos
How can someone make such huge cockups with titles like Duel, if I made huge errors like Universal seem to do, i'd loose my job.
Apparently the R1 of Universal's DVD of the Spielberg produced Taken is screwed up in much the same way as their recent The Meaning of Life.
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So many films, so little time...
Originally posted by Captain_Chaos
How can someone make such huge cockups with titles like Duel, if I made huge errors like Universal seem to do, i'd loose my job.
Does anyone know whats wrong with it yet?
Originally posted by welshmatt
You opened it:cuckoo: :dork: :D
:nuts: :lol: :D
49% of me is a collector and was saying "keep the damn thing sealed and just stroke it every so often" and the other 51% of me being a Spielberg fanatic was saying "open the bloody thing and let's get watching and enjoying" ;)
Very nice it is too ;) :thumbs:
J
Ok, so I just picked up a copy of this from a local Newbury Comics (new sealed and cheap :D), so what is it worth and should I open it? I am going to see if they can get more copies (please don't mail asking - if I get more they will appear in the classifieds - but I don't hold out much hope). I love the film and want to watch it, but part of me thinks sell it and then wait for it to be released again and get it cheap...
spearce8
19-10-2003, 18:14
Originally posted by Kryten
Ok, so I just picked up a copy so what is it worth and should I open it?
Well I sold mine copy on E-bay for £50, but not before I made a copy for myself :D
If you're gonna sell for a quick profit, I'd be quick, I believe it's out at Xmas :)
Originally posted by spearce8
Well I sold mine copy on E-bay for £50, but not before I made a copy for myself :D
If you're gonna sell for a quick profit, I'd be quick, I believe it's out at Xmas :)
Well if its out at christmas and identical I may try to make a quick profit :) 50GBP would be massive profit and mine is sealed...
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